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Old 17-07-2013, 07:11 AM #1
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Default Emma agreed "It takes 2 to tango".Was it right they were blaming Hazel on BBOTS ?

Hazel pulled Daley's boxers down and slapped him on the bottom.IMO Nothing justifies him pinning her down then gesturing to head butt her.

Is it right that most on BBOTS will do anything to justify cementing opposition against one of their targets, which at the moment is Hazel for what I think too was horrible behaviour how she used to flirt with Daley and was the main one leading things between them.

Is it right they were saying that her pulling down his boxers and slapping him instigated and was partly responsible for him threatening her later by holding her down then threatening to nut her ?

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Still no excuse for how he handled it.He should have just pulled her pants down,Not threatened to nut her!
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It was out of order what he said and did but Emma was right it take's two.
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"head butt her."


Emma skipped that.
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Still no excuse for how he handled it.He should have just pulled her pants down,Not threatened to nut her!

Yes he watched it.
and knows he is Guilty more than Hazel.


Now he is out he does not know her etc.
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"head butt her."


Emma skipped that.
Yep she absolutely did.

The way it was handled was horrendous imo
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Hazel provoked him. Such a shame he didn't just say 'Back off I want to sleep' instead of taking the macho male route.
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Saying two to tango isn't putting the blame on Hazel...........
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Agree 100% it does take 2 to tango
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So by all accounts it's ok for a woman to assault a bloke,but not the other way round,and didn't I read on here that she also got him round the neck,just asking that's all?
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To Emma's credit she fumbled around for ages trying to find the right words then said 'it takes two to tango'. The interview will not have been scripted by her and it seems she found it hard to follow the script. I thought she handled it very professionally.
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To Emma's credit she fumbled around for ages trying to find the right words then said 'it takes two to tango'. The interview will not have been scripted by her and it seems she found it hard to follow the script. I thought she handled it very professionally.
I think he should have been called up on alot more things that happened in there but I will reserve judgement for when Hazel comes out. I'll be very disappointed if she goes to town on Hazel after being so caring and understanding towards Daley who was far more to blame with both the "romance" bit (as he was the one with a g/f) and the "incident" itself
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Agree in the sense that it wouldn't have happened without her participation, but it's just a fact, that wouldn't have happened if she wasn't there
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The guy just said he wanted to sleep lol. And she kept asking for a cuddle and he didnt want to cuddle the bloody Irish girl.. She took hes dam duvet? Imo what Daley did was uncalled for but it does take two to tango. Hazel was provoking a very drunk man who is a lightweight.

But fgs he came on the show, he apologised to anyone he offended. Stop bloody slating and going on about it. Hes faced the consequences and punishment so what else can he do? Just leave it and move on now..
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So by all accounts it's ok for a woman to assault a bloke,but not the other way round,and didn't I read on here that she also got him round the neck,just asking that's all?
Yes she did ,and agree with you ,its NOT ok for a woman to pull a man shorts down ,and people who claim it is have double standards
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I think he should have been called up on alot more things that happened in there but I will reserve judgement for when Hazel comes out. I'll be very disappointed if she goes to town on Hazel after being so caring and understanding towards Daley who was far more to blame with both the "romance" bit (as he was the one with a g/f) and the "incident" itself
OK . Daley clearly has mental health issues so the kid gloves may have been a good idea. I agree that if she goes to town on Hazel then that is not fair but last nights interview given the subject and the circumstances was a it lightweight.
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yea 2 to tango lets have a play fight but how does that give right to threaten to headbut and make someone fear for their life , yeah 2 to tango lol wtf

emma didn't just thow hazel under the bus with that interview she got in the bus in the drivers seat and rolled over hazel then reversed and done it again then blamed her for it.
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The guy just said he wanted to sleep lol. And she kept asking for a cuddle and he didnt want to cuddle the bloody Irish girl.. She took hes dam duvet? Imo what Daley did was uncalled for but it does take two to tango. Hazel was provoking a very drunk man who is a lightweight.

But fgs he came on the show, he apologised to anyone he offended. Stop bloody slating and going on about it. Hes faced the consequences and punishment so what else can he do? Just leave it and move on now..
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What is it with these girls giving the men mixed signals,a man will go one way or another,It's not just Hazel who does it either,Actually it's mixed signals for us too,I cant make out whether Charlie likes Dexter or not ,same with Hazel.(and Daley)
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The guy just said he wanted to sleep lol. And she kept asking for a cuddle and he didnt want to cuddle the bloody Irish girl.. She took hes dam duvet? Imo what Daley did was uncalled for but it does take two to tango. Hazel was provoking a very drunk man who is a lightweight.

But fgs he came on the show, he apologised to anyone he offended. Stop bloody slating and going on about it. Hes faced the consequences and punishment so what else can he do? Just leave it and move on now..
Why didn't he leave her be in the first place then? BB turned out the lights and closed the shutters for him but he still felt the need to lie to Hazel (who clearly wasn't ready to go to bed and was quite happy outside talking to Charlie) and make her come in and told her to go to bed like a good little girl. He could have slept away and she would never have bothered him if he hadn't insisted she come in
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I'm genuinely at a loss to understand how anyone can think there is equal blame. This situation could have easily happened after the show, tucked away in a hotel room or a private bedroom somewhere. Imagine how dark this situation could have become then.

It is completely inexcusable. I'm sure if people were watching people they care about in that situation, then their outlooks would be very different. Hazel could be the worst person in the world (which she isn't), but it doesn't give anyone, especially a man, the right to do what he did.
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What is it with these girls giving the men mixed signals,a man will go one way or another,It's not just Hazel who does it either,Actually it's mixed signals for us too,I cant make out whether Charlie likes Dexter or not ,same with Hazel.(and Daley)
I don't think it's fair to say Hazel was giving him mixed signals. Her signals were very clearly "it's here on a plate if you want it", and her signals have been like that for a while.
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To be fair he was in his bed and when she came in ,she told him to come and give her a cuddle,she could have also left him alone
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Are people forgetting how daley had been acting the day before, telling her how he liked the natural look on girls and then demanded that she understood what he ment and that she shouldn't wear make up, then the next day he told her how much she should wear. And the massive fact that hazel was outside chatting and it was daley who called her in and told her to go sleep and be a good little girl :S she was in a giddy mood, she asked him for a cuddle, but it was him who said come over here. yes she nicked his cover, but i would never go as far as, saying that it takes 2 to tango, when they never were tangoing. :S it seemed to me hazel was taking it light hearted because she was drunk to remember and she thought that he was flirting back, but reality was that he was just annoyed and she just wound him up more, not on purpose, but his actions cannot be justified by Emma saying well it takes 2 to tango, outrageous. the fact they never even brought up the fact he said he had a gf then he didn't then they were having problems, then they wasn't together, :S this was never even mentioned.

The crazy thing is, was it me or did he seem like he was off with Hazel, like she was the one who did this to him, has no one told him actually hazel was ok with it all, and was bad that he had left. he does need help tho.

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It's like saying it's partly Rihanna's fault for getting attacked by Chris Brown. Absolutely disgraceful.
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