[cfromhx02]

Hazel pulled Daley's boxers down and slapped him on the bottom.IMO Nothing justifies him pinning her down then gesturing to head butt her.

Is it right that most on BBOTS will do anything to justify cementing opposition against one of their targets, which at the moment is Hazel for what I think too was horrible behaviour how she used to flirt with Daley and was the main one leading things between them.

Is it right they were saying that her pulling down his boxers and slapping him instigated and was partly responsible for him threatening her later by holding her down then threatening to nut her ?

[Northern Monkey]

Still no excuse for how he handled it.He should have just pulled her pants down,Not threatened to nut her!

[arista]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Still no excuse for how he handled it.He should have just pulled her pants down,Not threatened to nut her!

Yes he watched it.
and knows he is Guilty more than Hazel.


Now he is out he does not know her etc.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Still no excuse for how he handled it.He should have just pulled her pants down,Not threatened to nut her!

Had he pulled down her pants, he would have been evicted, which is why she should have been evicted too

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Had he pulled down her pants, he would have been evicted, which is why she should have been evicted too

How do you know that? No one has ever in the history of BB been kicked out for doing that

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How do you know that? No one has ever in the history of BB been kicked out for doing that

This .I am fed up with hearing the pant pulling down excuse . That kind of behaviour has been part and parcel of BB since it began

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by anne666

This .I am fed up with hearing the pant pulling down excuse . That kind of behaviour has been part and parcel of BB since it began

when you are a lot older most on here will be glad to have someone pulling their pants down to avoid embarrassment

[Patricia4]

It was out of order what he said and did but Emma was right it take's two.

[arista]

"head butt her."


Emma skipped that.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by arista

"head butt her."


Emma skipped that.

Yep she absolutely did.

The way it was handled was horrendous imo

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Emma tells it like it is, she understands (like most girls) exactly what Hazel was up to, unfortunately the men on here seem a but stupid when it comes to girls like this

EMMA WILLIS TELLS IT LIKE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CANT WAIT FOR HAZZELS INTERVIEW (if she gets one)lol

The day Emma tells it like it is I will believe she is at last earning her salary.To sign away chunks of ones integrity is not really something I admire.

[Daffodil]

Hazel provoked him. Such a shame he didn't just say 'Back off I want to sleep' instead of taking the macho male route.

[Josy]

Saying two to tango isn't putting the blame on Hazel...........

[chuff me dizzy]

Agree 100% it does take 2 to tango

[Kazanne]

So by all accounts it's ok for a woman to assault a bloke,but not the other way round,and didn't I read on here that she also got him round the neck,just asking that's all?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So by all accounts it's ok for a woman to assault a bloke,but not the other way round,and didn't I read on here that she also got him round the neck,just asking that's all?

Yes she did ,and agree with you ,its NOT ok for a woman to pull a man shorts down ,and people who claim it is have double standards

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Yes she did ,and agree with you ,its NOT ok for a woman to pull a man shorts down ,and people who claim it is have double standards

The people who have double standards are the ones who fully supported Denise pulling the twins shorts down in CBB because they hated them, yet are disgusted at Hazel pulling Daley's shorts down because they hate HER. I remember when the twins were sat in the diary room screaming "we're gonna sue!!" and everyone was moaning about what an overreaction it was, and yet Daley responds by pinning Hazel to the bed by her neck threatening to "nut her" and that's a perfectly fine reaction? There's the real double standards.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by RichardG

The people who have double standards are the ones who fully supported Denise pulling the twins shorts down in CBB because they hated them, yet are disgusted at Hazel pulling Daley's shorts down because they hate HER. I remember when the twins were sat in the diary room screaming "we're gonna sue!!" and everyone was moaning about what an overreaction it was, and yet Daley responds by pinning Hazel to the bed by her neck threatening to "nut her" and that's a perfectly fine reaction? There's the real double standards.

I agree with that. And I do think Hazel shouldn't have done that but I do think that a warning was sufficient as it was in Denises case

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree with that. And I do think Hazel shouldn't have done that but I do think that a warning was sufficient as it was in Denises case

Denise was a woman, doing it to a woman, and she did not manage to pull the twins pants down completely so we saw nothing

Hazel pulled Daleys pants all the way down and therefore should have been ejected for sexual assault, which is how it would have played out had she been a guy doing it to a girl who didnt want it done

no one here is trying to justify Daleys actions but please stop trying to justify Hazel cause we are all gonna let her (and the rest of the housemates) know exactly what went on, when we all boo her to f..k on Friday night

Dans face will be a confused picture lololololol

[GiRTh]

To Emma's credit she fumbled around for ages trying to find the right words then said 'it takes two to tango'. The interview will not have been scripted by her and it seems she found it hard to follow the script. I thought she handled it very professionally.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

To Emma's credit she fumbled around for ages trying to find the right words then said 'it takes two to tango'. The interview will not have been scripted by her and it seems she found it hard to follow the script. I thought she handled it very professionally.

I think he should have been called up on alot more things that happened in there but I will reserve judgement for when Hazel comes out. I'll be very disappointed if she goes to town on Hazel after being so caring and understanding towards Daley who was far more to blame with both the "romance" bit (as he was the one with a g/f) and the "incident" itself

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think he should have been called up on alot more things that happened in there but I will reserve judgement for when Hazel comes out. I'll be very disappointed if she goes to town on Hazel after being so caring and understanding towards Daley who was far more to blame with both the "romance" bit (as he was the one with a g/f) and the "incident" itself

OK . Daley clearly has mental health issues so the kid gloves may have been a good idea. I agree that if she goes to town on Hazel then that is not fair but last nights interview given the subject and the circumstances was a it lightweight.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think he should have been called up on alot more things that happened in there but I will reserve judgement for when Hazel comes out. I'll be very disappointed if she goes to town on Hazel after being so caring and understanding towards Daley who was far more to blame with both the "romance" bit (as he was the one with a g/f) and the "incident" itself

I agree she handled it badly. Too much glossing over the reality. Par for the course IMO in most post eviction interviews too. Also I think it is because BB are hiding from their responsibility. They should have intervened when he was spiraling out of control before she even went into the room. That was unnerving viewing.They were wanting sleaze, nothing more, why did they not show the whole thing?They know they were wrong. So many people have not seen his manic build up to this. If BB had got the sleaze no amount of pant pulling down or slaps would have mattered.That would have been seen as playful. It all backfired when he let his real rage show.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think he should have been called up on alot more things that happened in there but I will reserve judgement for when Hazel comes out. I'll be very disappointed if she goes to town on Hazel after being so caring and understanding towards Daley who was far more to blame with both the "romance" bit (as he was the one with a g/f) and the "incident" itself

Sadly, there are a lot of women around who come across as being cock-pleasers. They always see the other side when it comes to sympathising with a man, but are really hard on other women. I think it's a kind of "Look at me! I'm not like other women... I really understand you boys". Don't really get that. It's okay to criticise Hazel, it's okay not to like her... but some of the things I've read on this forum over the last couple of days have sickened me. And Emma's touchy-feel, very understanding interview with Daley, as he choked back the tears last night... Give me a *******ing break. And the fact that his "girlfriend" was there last night reinforces the idea for me that men like Daley gravitate generally toward women who'll tolerate their behaviour.

I don't want to pretend that Hazel is totally blameless, she was provocative to a degree, and in hindsight I'm sure she realises she could have handled things differently... but nothing could justify Daley's actions. And all the people calling her a ***** and a slut because she flirted with him... WTF...? She is a single woman, if he's got a girlfriend the onus is on HIM to be faithful, not her.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

Sadly, there are a lot of women around who come across as being cock-pleasers. They always see the other side when it comes to sympathising with a man, but are really hard on other women. I think it's a kind of "Look at me! I'm not like other women... I really understand you boys". Don't really get that. It's okay to criticise Hazel, it's okay not to like her... but some of the things I've read on this forum over the last couple of days have sickened me. And Emma's touchy-feel, very understanding interview with Daley, as he choked back the tears last night... Give me a *******ing break. And the fact that his "girlfriend" was there last night reinforces the idea for me that men like Daley gravitate generally toward women who'll tolerate their behaviour.

I don't want to pretend that Hazel is totally blameless, she was provocative to a degree, and in hindsight I'm sure she realises she could have handled things differently... but nothing could justify Daley's actions. And all the people calling her a ***** and a slut because she flirted with him... WTF...? She is a single woman, if he's got a girlfriend the onus is on HIM to be faithful, not her.

In my experience genuine abusers are very rarely single. I wasn't surprised to see his gf there and I wont be surprised if she goes back to him.