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Old 03-08-2013, 11:41 PM #1
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But yet you all still love gina! What??? I don't care..this is my opinion... Hazel is a lot more genuine and Gina sees Hazel as a threat because Hazel is pretty and gorgeous the only thing Hazel has done is apparently 'squash her titties' well it's gina's fault for getting them enlarged isn't it! Hazel is a lot more genuine and you may think no way, he's talking rubbish but think logic what has Hazel done to Gina for Gina to be so cruel and bitchy,think about it.....
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The only person this is damaging is Gina so I wouldn't worry

Hazel's just getting fans so It's kinda enjoyable to watch
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The only person this is damaging is Gina so I wouldn't worry

Hazel's just getting fans so It's kinda enjoyable to watch
Gina's gone a lot more big headed since Hazel was ranked last and she was ranked 1st in popularity it's a shame as I liked gina before hand
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I don't like Gina she's got a face like a welder's bench. I don't like Hazel neither but I would give her the best 3 strokes she's ever had in her life.
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We don't get shown much bitching from Hazel but in the last 2 nights we have been shown that it's not one sided, Hazel definitely doesn't like Gina either and it's not because of Gina bitching about her, it is purely because she doesn't like the way Gina talks about her wealth.

Gina probably picked up on this weeks ago. Even if Hazel doesn't say much to her it's not hard to tell when someone doesn't like you, it could be a roll of the eyes, a snigger, or the person just being dismissive or not really paying attention to you.

Gina reads this as Hazel taking a disliking to her and dismissing her purely because she is jealous of her wealth. I don't think she gets that Hazel might dislike her not just because she has money but it's because she talks about it too much for Hazel's liking. People can be raised or else have very different opinions on how or even if you should speak about money.

Gina has said she's used to people hating on her on the outside. She probably feels that Hazel is just another one of these people who just wouldn't even give her a chance to get to know her, but instead of showing hurt about it I think Gina goes on the attack instead.

I do believe that Hazel thought the public would feel the same way she does about Gina and that Gina would not be popular at all with the public. She said something tonight about being surprised about the public keeping Gina in because the public aren't 'billionaires' either. I know she made a comment before too one of the times Gina was saved, something about the public must enjoy watching Gina acting spoilt or something?

If at the start of the show Hazel instantly disliked Gina because of the way she carries on, and Hazel felt she was a pretentious spoilt brat, and Hazel also felt that the public would feel the same way - then I would absolutely guess that she probably was dismissive of Gina, even if only in very subtle ways.

I think Gina picked up on this and felt rejected by Hazel without even being given a chance and who knows what else she heard in that Wolfy and Hazel convo in the bathroom? She probably feels Hazel only deemed her worth talking to or started giving her the time of day once she realised the public had saved her several times.

We definitely see Gina bitch a lot more about Hazel but I think she might just still be holding a grudge from being angry with Hazel earlier in the show. She doesn't make herself look good though with this bitching and needs to reign it in a bit I think.
I wish they had a proper conversation about things, and maybe they could actually work things out. Might be too late at this stage though.
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I don't like Gina she's got a face like a welder's bench. I don't like Hazel neither but I would give her the best 3 strokes she's ever had in her life.


Re: Gina's dislike for Hazel, it's a transparent case of the green eyed monster at work. For all her wealth, she'll never have Hazel's natural beauty and that clearly rubs her up the wrong way.
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Re: Gina's dislike for Hazel, it's a transparent case of the green eyed monster at work. For all her wealth, she'll never have Hazel's natural beauty and that clearly rubs her up the wrong way.
I totally disagree - I think it is the opposite. Hazel is clearly jealous of Gina's wealth and most especially 'the fact that she supposedly doesn't work for the money'.
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I totally disagree - I think it is the opposite. Hazel is clearly jealous of Gina's wealth and most especially 'the fact that she supposedly doesn't work for the money'.
I don't think that's true at all. I can understand exactly what she meant by what she said, I think she articulated it very well and very honestly, even that gladiator said the same thing the other day on BOTS
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Hazel , I think, is a tad resentful of Gina's "supposed" wealth and life style. However someone constantly bragging is vulgar and totally unnecessary.No-one in life needs to know such financial details about anyone else, well not to the extent that Gina has disclosed. Truth or lies who knows or cares. That is power wielding in Gina's eyes, insensitive, immature and boastful, simply demonstrating a lack of integrity. Gina started to dislike Hazel in the safe house, when they saw the Daley showmance and she heard what Hazel was saying about her behind her back. The latter would annoy anyone.I am also concerned about the use of the word hate, so freely. I hate despotic people etc. in life. A contestant in a game show ??? No.
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I get the impression from Hazel that she works extremely hard and Gina just doesn't. I'm not surprised Hazel doesn't like her, it's not like Gina shows any appreciation for what she has, she seems to think she's entitled to it. I did Gina extremely entertaining but there is no denying that she is a spoilt little brat who isn't used to hearing the word "no."
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I get the impression from Hazel that she works extremely hard and Gina just doesn't. I'm not surprised Hazel doesn't like her, it's not like Gina shows any appreciation for what she has, she seems to think she's entitled to it. I did Gina extremely entertaining but there is no denying that she is a spoilt little brat who isn't used to hearing the word "no."
She's a facetious bitch who is just as ugly on the outside as she is on the inside. Hazel is a facetious bitch who is not as ugly on the outside as she is on the inside and who because of my extreme shallowness and her sweet tits would get knob.
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I totally disagree - I think it is the opposite. Hazel is clearly jealous of Gina's wealth and most especially 'the fact that she supposedly doesn't work for the money'.
Some people seem to be dazzled by the suggestion that Gina has money and think that if other people aren't dazzled, then they're jealous. Firstly, if Gina really is rich, any money spent on her education by her parents ought to be refunded immediately because she's as thick as four short planks nailed together. She has no manners, struggles to use a knife and fork properly (I bet that goes down well in the Savoy Grill) and whines constantly. She is totally self-involved and this was demonstrated last night when she engaged Callum - Callum, who was about to be evicted - in conversation desperately looking for validation because she heard some people chant her name. Everything is always about Gina. She's shallow, rude, ignorant and you'd think she'd spend some of her vast wealth getting her adenoids done.

But hey, if you think she's rich, I guess that cancels everything else out.
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It would be funny if Hazel discovered Gina has no wealth and it is all a stunt!
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Hazel said "I don't like being who aren't motivated, and people who are only driven by money. All Gina cares about is money." So therefore, Hazel admitted that she didn't like Gina before Gina ever said a wrong word against her.

I also think a lot of Gina's feelings stem from the fact that Hazel is a homewrecker, and Gina detested the relationship she had with Daley because she doesn't agree with the morals of it.
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Hazel said "I don't like being who aren't motivated, and people who are only driven by money. All Gina cares about is money." So therefore, Hazel admitted that she didn't like Gina before Gina ever said a wrong word against her.

I also think a lot of Gina's feelings stem from the fact that Hazel is a homewrecker, and Gina detested the relationship she had with Daley because she doesn't agree with the morals of it.
Haha... yeah, morals. That's why Gina detests Hazel. And I mean, it must take a LOT of morals to pay Ł18,000 a month rent, and step over homeless people in the Capital to get in the front door. That would put you in a position to judge others on their morals. I remember her discussion with Wolfy, where she pretended not to know anything about how much stuff costs and how some people struggle. Nothing immoral about all that though. And lying, that's quite moral... because if Gina is a socialite, then so am I.

I guess Gina has every right to dislike someone with such hatred because she flirted with a man who had a girlfriend. I look forward to her making some statement about Daley... I look forward to it, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Haha... yeah, morals. That's why Gina detests Hazel. And I mean, it must take a LOT of morals to pay Ł18,000 a month rent, and step over homeless people in the Capital to get in the front door. That would put you in a position to judge others on their morals. I remember her discussion with Wolfy, where she pretended not to know anything about how much stuff costs and how some people struggle. Nothing immoral about all that though. And lying, that's quite moral... because if Gina is a socialite, then so am I.

I guess Gina has every right to dislike someone with such hatred because she flirted with a man who had a girlfriend. I look forward to her making some statement about Daley... I look forward to it, but I'm not holding my breath.
The most astute thing I've heard Sallie say was Gina isn't rich cause her teeth and hair are shocking. She's pretty much spot on.
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The most astute thing I've heard Sallie say was Gina isn't rich cause her teeth and hair are shocking. She's pretty much spot on.
Except she didn't mention the weave as well! Lol!

I wonder if Gina's boyfriend is, in fact, truly her bf? Or is he part of the stunt?

Hazel - along with other housemates - has not questioned why Gina is so manky if she's so fabulously wealthy.

I do not think BB show us the bits where Gina is boasting about her swanky lifestyle; they are probably too embarrassed since they found out it is all fake.

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Except she didn't mention the weave as well! Lol!

I wonder if Gina's boyfriend is, in fact, truly her bf? Or is he part of the stunt?

Hazel - along with other housemates - has not questioned why Gina is so manky if she's so fabulously wealthy.

I do not think BB show us the bits where Gina is boasting about her swanky lifestyle; they are probably too embarrassed since they found out it is all fake.
Yeah I think she's away with the fairies tbh.
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I just think Gina is still caught up in the way she and Daley acted. Which is by the way, completely understandable. It is because of this that she has no trust for Hazel. Hazel is bringing this stuff up about Gina living off all this money per month, but Gina hasn't mentioned that for ages has she?
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Hazel said "I don't like being who aren't motivated, and people who are only driven by money. All Gina cares about is money." So therefore, Hazel admitted that she didn't like Gina before Gina ever said a wrong word against her.

I also think a lot of Gina's feelings stem from the fact that Hazel is a homewrecker, and Gina detested the relationship she had with Daley because she doesn't agree with the morals of it.
First of let me just be clear that I think Daley was definitely most in the wrong regarding the flirting, and I was also not sad to see him removed. I am also liking Hazel lately.
But you may have a point about how watching the two of them flirt might have hit a raw nerve for Gina.


IF the stories about Gina are true, then her Dad left her Mum for his mistress when Gina was only 14. Gina is said to hate her father's partner and calls her "horrid, horrid, horrid" - that sounds familiar. She seems to equate her father's love with how much money that he spends on someone, and once when he bought the mistress a really expensive handbag Gina demanded that she be bought the same. The reason she is said to have fallen out with her father is because of not getting along with his partner.
Link to story: http://www.lipstickalley.com/f50/meet-gina-rio-462036/

In the safehouse Gina did seem genuinely disgusted by watching Daley and Hazel, and it wasn't just Hazel she was also angered by Daley, I remember her saying something along the lines of "he's the one with a girlfriend"but Dexter kept convincing her that Daley was innocent and hapless and didn't realise how he was coming across, and that he would 'have a chat' with his mate to warn him. Gina was also very blunt when Daley asked her how Hazel and he were coming across.

Anyways this is all a big "IF" of course, as I don't know exactly what to believe in the media. I was going to mention this in my first post but decided to just stick with the stuff they had both mentioned in the show. If it's true about her Dad though , it's kinda sad if she has come to learn that the only way her Dad can show her any love is to buy expensive things for her. I would imagine that your whole identity and how you viewed your own self worth might become focused all around the material things you have. That is of course just armchair pop psych from me though, don't know anything for sure and still haven't had the story verified yet.
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Not really - Gina is simply jealous of Hazel. She isn't in the same league as Hazel - and she knows it.
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Hazel said "I don't like being who aren't motivated, and people who are only driven by money. All Gina cares about is money." So therefore, Hazel admitted that she didn't like Gina before Gina ever said a wrong word against her.

I also think a lot of Gina's feelings stem from the fact that Hazel is a homewrecker, and Gina detested the relationship she had with Daley because she doesn't agree with the morals of it.
The only homewrecker in there was the one who had a home to wreck and didn't give two hoots about home when it came to a pretty girl showing an interest in him.
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The most astute thing I've heard Sallie say was Gina isn't rich cause her teeth and hair are shocking. She's pretty much spot on.
I agree. Can't understand how so many have failed to notice this. People with pots of money have good teeth, good hair and good fashion sense - especially young women obsessed with their appearance. The girl is FAKE.
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