[sampvt]

Very confusing to watch. Every time someone does something bad and deserves to be evicted, they get sheltered by BB edits or twists. This year the Edits and twists have shaped the way the HM,s have been evicted or viewed by the public. BB has gone from being a show for the public, shaped by the public and winners decided by the public, to a show run by a very biased media corporation with a hidden agenda.

It has got to the point where voting has been a waste of time as the edits and favouritism on BBBOTS is so blatant that even Emma felt the need to defend herself last night. The main problem is that these biased edits seem to change from week to week and favour different HM,s with the exception of the chosen few that BB have decided they need to keep in the house.

BB chooses HM,s with the IQ of a carrot then they spend the rest of the time defending and manipulating the show to keep it interesting. Why don't they just choose interesting and relatively honest HM,s with half a brain and allow them to compete and falter by virtue of interesting tasks and the odd twist.

This blatant manipulation is pandering to the needs of the cyber warrior type and real viewers are refusing to watch the show because of this. In short if they want the series to survive, they need to take a step back and offer a program full of fun and interesting tasks instead of hanging their hat on the coat peg of disgusting and uncomfortable viewing.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Very confusing to watch. Every time someone does something bad and deserves to be evicted, they get sheltered by BB edits or twists. This year the Edits and twists have shaped the way the HM,s have been evicted or viewed by the public. BB has gone from being a show for the public, shaped by the public and winners decided by the public, to a show run by a very biased media corporation with a hidden agenda.

It has got to the point where voting has been a waste of time as the edits and favouritism on BBBOTS is so blatant that even Emma felt the need to defend herself last night. The main problem is that these biased edits seem to change from week to week and favour different HM,s with the exception of the chosen few that BB have decided they need to keep in the house.

BB chooses HM,s with the IQ of a carrot then they spend the rest of the time defending and manipulating the show to keep it interesting. Why don't they just choose interesting and relatively honest HM,s with half a brain and allow them to compete and falter by virtue of interesting tasks and the odd twist.

This blatant manipulation is pandering to the needs of the cyber warrior type and real viewers are refusing to watch the show because of this. In short if they want the series to survive, they need to take a step back and offer a program full of fun and interesting tasks instead of hanging their hat on the coat peg of disgusting and uncomfortable viewing.

Well said and I agree with you.
I really dislike the 'enginering' that has been done in this series by BB themselves.

[HBB1508]

I would have to agree on this one. I have found some of the tasks have been done just to stir up trouble and have made uncomfortable viewing for me.

[sampvt]

The Gina queen bee task is another opertunity to mess with things.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Very confusing to watch. Every time someone does something bad and deserves to be evicted, they get sheltered by BB edits or twists. This year the Edits and twists have shaped the way the HM,s have been evicted or viewed by the public. BB has gone from being a show for the public, shaped by the public and winners decided by the public, to a show run by a very biased media corporation with a hidden agenda.

It has got to the point where voting has been a waste of time as the edits and favouritism on BBBOTS is so blatant that even Emma felt the need to defend herself last night. The main problem is that these biased edits seem to change from week to week and favour different HM,s with the exception of the chosen few that BB have decided they need to keep in the house.

BB chooses HM,s with the IQ of a carrot then they spend the rest of the time defending and manipulating the show to keep it interesting. Why don't they just choose interesting and relatively honest HM,s with half a brain and allow them to compete and falter by virtue of interesting tasks and the odd twist.

This blatant manipulation is pandering to the needs of the cyber warrior type and real viewers are refusing to watch the show because of this. In short if they want the series to survive, they need to take a step back and offer a program full of fun and interesting tasks instead of hanging their hat on the coat peg of disgusting and uncomfortable viewing.

Very true. I noticed Charlie burst into tears on the live feed, no one cared about her.

But in the HLs edit, it showed Gina raising a finger to her nose, to look like she was gonna cry in sympathy with Charlie. All totally FALSE.

[south12345]

I have to agree here.....BB are the maipultors and the HMs the puppets., as i have said in a previous comment.
The majority of the tasks have been about causing disharmony in the house. To pit the couples who dont get on against each other. To introduce outside information which would cause controversy in the House.
Its as if they want to feed off the negativity of life rather than the fun aspect. Its car crash television at its most extreme but it seems that the vast majority of viewing public get off on watching it.

[aman201]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Very confusing to watch. Every time someone does something bad and deserves to be evicted, they get sheltered by BB edits or twists. This year the Edits and twists have shaped the way the HM,s have been evicted or viewed by the public. BB has gone from being a show for the public, shaped by the public and winners decided by the public, to a show run by a very biased media corporation with a hidden agenda.

It has got to the point where voting has been a waste of time as the edits and favouritism on BBBOTS is so blatant that even Emma felt the need to defend herself last night. The main problem is that these biased edits seem to change from week to week and favour different HM,s with the exception of the chosen few that BB have decided they need to keep in the house.

BB chooses HM,s with the IQ of a carrot then they spend the rest of the time defending and manipulating the show to keep it interesting. Why don't they just choose interesting and relatively honest HM,s with half a brain and allow them to compete and falter by virtue of interesting tasks and the odd twist.

This blatant manipulation is pandering to the needs of the cyber warrior type and real viewers are refusing to watch the show because of this. In short if they want the series to survive, they need to take a step back and offer a program full of fun and interesting tasks instead of hanging their hat on the coat peg of disgusting and uncomfortable viewing.

Agree.

That's why I'm still unsure how this series rates truly.

[Razor]

I think this series has been the best channel 5 has done and I love the secrets and lies part.

[Niamh.]

I absolutely agree Sam and tbh It's gotten so blatant and so bad, I think this is probably going to be my last series (my husband will rejoice)

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Razor

I think this series has been the best channel 5 has done and I love the secrets and lies part.

Agree. I like the fact that it is themed. I almost gave up on BB after BB13, but this has restored my faith in the series.

[aman201]

Well BB13 was fantastic really.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I absolutely agree Sam and tbh It's gotten so blatant and so bad, I think this is probably going to be my last series (my husband will rejoice)

TBH Naimh, I am going to watch CBB then wont bother again, just like many other fans have done. Its way too contrived for me these days.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by sampvt

TBH Naimh, I am going to watch CBB then wont bother again, just like many other fans have done. Its way too contrived for me these days.

It has nothing in common with Big Brother as conceived, It is simply a poorly written SOAP with "characters" chosen by the producers to fit with their preconceived script!

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Very confusing to watch. Every time someone does something bad and deserves to be evicted, they get sheltered by BB edits or twists. This year the Edits and twists have shaped the way the HM,s have been evicted or viewed by the public. BB has gone from being a show for the public, shaped by the public and winners decided by the public, to a show run by a very biased media corporation with a hidden agenda.

It has got to the point where voting has been a waste of time as the edits and favouritism on BBBOTS is so blatant that even Emma felt the need to defend herself last night. The main problem is that these biased edits seem to change from week to week and favour different HM,s with the exception of the chosen few that BB have decided they need to keep in the house.

BB chooses HM,s with the IQ of a carrot then they spend the rest of the time defending and manipulating the show to keep it interesting. Why don't they just choose interesting and relatively honest HM,s with half a brain and allow them to compete and falter by virtue of interesting tasks and the odd twist.

This blatant manipulation is pandering to the needs of the cyber warrior type and real viewers are refusing to watch the show because of this. In short if they want the series to survive, they need to take a step back and offer a program full of fun and interesting tasks instead of hanging their hat on the coat peg of disgusting and uncomfortable viewing.

Yes......I agree totally, this current series of BB has changed so much from previous series it follows no rules or sticks to agreed formats, the production team have used twists to constantly manipulate the show to their own ends. The VTE is crazy resulting in big characters leaving way too early. The Tasks are basically crap, amateuristic badly thought out and not particularly entertaining.

Also lack of LF has allowed selective editing to show HM the way the production team wish them to be seen by the GBP. and there has been far too much interaction of the HM with the outside world for my liking.

This series of BB sadly heralds the end of the normal BB and the social experiment it once was, now it is just another reality TV show, confused and overlong, I like a lot of people on this forum will struggle to sit through another 9/10 weeks of this crap again.

might still watch the CBB series though at least most of the celebs have half a personality......!!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

TBH Naimh, I am going to watch CBB then wont bother again, just like many other fans have done. Its way too contrived for me these days.

Yeah, I'll probably carry on watching the Celebrity version actually

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I absolutely agree Sam and tbh It's gotten so blatant and so bad, I think this is probably going to be my last series (my husband will rejoice)

This. The bias and frankly disgusting criticism of certain Hm's has made me think BB on 5 isn't for me. I'll still watch but not every night and definitely no spin off shows.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Very confusing to watch. Every time someone does something bad and deserves to be evicted, they get sheltered by BB edits or twists. This year the Edits and twists have shaped the way the HM,s have been evicted or viewed by the public. BB has gone from being a show for the public, shaped by the public and winners decided by the public, to a show run by a very biased media corporation with a hidden agenda.

It has got to the point where voting has been a waste of time as the edits and favouritism on BBBOTS is so blatant that even Emma felt the need to defend herself last night. The main problem is that these biased edits seem to change from week to week and favour different HM,s with the exception of the chosen few that BB have decided they need to keep in the house.

BB chooses HM,s with the IQ of a carrot then they spend the rest of the time defending and manipulating the show to keep it interesting. Why don't they just choose interesting and relatively honest HM,s with half a brain and allow them to compete and falter by virtue of interesting tasks and the odd twist.

This blatant manipulation is pandering to the needs of the cyber warrior type and real viewers are refusing to watch the show because of this. In short if they want the series to survive, they need to take a step back and offer a program full of fun and interesting tasks instead of hanging their hat on the coat peg of disgusting and uncomfortable viewing.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

This. The bias and frankly disgusting criticism of certain Hm's has made me think BB on 5 isn't for me. I'll still watch but not every night and definitely no spin off shows.

I feel the same. I think they're catering to the mentality of the people who attend eviction shows and the idiots who go along to BBBOTS. Blatantly biased and really quite tedious now. I give BB another year, tops.

[Gillian-73]

Well said Sam. The manipulation has been blatent this series. I know some say it's the best series in years but for me over the last three weeks or so i've lost some of my love for the show and I never thought i'd say that after being an avid fan since the very start!

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

I feel the same. I think they're catering to the mentality of the people who attend eviction shows and the idiots who go along to BBBOTS. Blatantly biased and really quite tedious now. I give BB another year, tops.

Agree. I don't think BB can last too much longer with this kind of 'entertainment'. It was just about bearable on 4. There was manipulation but these guys in 5 are taking the p*ss.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Gillian-73

Well said Sam. The manipulation has been blatent this series. I know some say it's the best series in years but for me over the last three weeks or so i've lost some of my love for the show and I never thought i'd say that after being an avid fan since the very start!

I feel exactly the same way...........!!!!

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by south12345

I have to agree here.....BB are the maipultors and the HMs the puppets., as i have said in a previous comment.
The majority of the tasks have been about causing disharmony in the house. To pit the couples who dont get on against each other. To introduce outside information which would cause controversy in the House.
Its as if they want to feed off the negativity of life rather than the fun aspect. Its car crash television at its most extreme but it seems that the vast majority of viewing public get off on watching it.

I agree with this-the h.m's are set up to fail with the tasks-the "guess how popular you all are" was dumber than mud because they had to guess and only had about 1 minute to do it and there were 9 people to rank in a specific order, I haven't worked it out atm but there must be 100's of combinations so they struggled and went from a £910.00 shopping budget to £76.00 and had to go hungry for a week for our "viewing pleasure".

Most of the tasks are dull and dish-water and do nothing to keep people entertained, I did like the Remote Control one though and Dan was funny in the Quarantine one but that's it. I really think they should be challenged creatively/emotionally in the tasks so they can get their teeth into them and us as viewers have something to watch i.e people having to work to accomplish something and being challenged in a constructive way rather than being made to look stupid or being cold/wet/tired/hungry/sore etc.

I've had a big problem with the selection process for yrs as well-they don't have many mature,financially secure,successful settled people on the show, the majority don't have great jobs, are immature and broke so I think the makers encourage us to look down our noses at them; you don't get many Davina Mcall types on the show (at least not female ones).

Then you get the "high-lights" half an hour of what the editors WANT you to see what went on in the house that day, or the day before. No-one but themselves have control over that so that leave it wide open for manipulation.

I stopped being a regular viewer after BB2 because it just turned into a show based on pissing h.m's off or boring them stupid,then standing back and letting us the public laugh at them.And because they were a bit immature and because they suddenly had all this exposure, they acted outrageously and we were encouraged to laugh at them for that too.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The Gina queen bee task is another opertunity to mess with things.

I've only seen a clip of this but I'd love to know how she got to be Queen Bee-I'll bet she's loving abusing all the power she's been given by electrocuting people, especially Hazel, who in turn, because she keeps being zapped is getting more and more stressed and angry.

Tasteful t.v.......NOT.

[barbel13]

Editors are bad,tasks people are bad,Presenters and bias guests speakers are bad.Judy the frog face is pro Gina. Heavy corruption going on/money place on Gina to win by the show insiders.This is my last BB watch.They can all beep off.

[showtime77]

Lets not pretend the manipulation just regards Gina. There are so many things that have been manipulated to give us a false impression or evoke a certain feeling. It happens every single year but it seems they are taking it to another level. Perhaps it is because they didn't get what they wanted when Aaron won.