[lippyzippy]

is he still the worthy winner?

lets be fair no one knows who the heck dexter is....not even dexter?
is he a magician? a cult leader? a stud muffin? a pimp daddy? a failed cabaret artist? a muff diver? a chutney ferret? does he swim upstream or downstream? does he even fish at all? is he a gambling addict? a sex addict? does he have OCT? is he ruthless and mean? or soft and emotional? are they the tears of a man redeemed or the crocodile tears of a fake clown?

im beginning to think hes a cult leader of hari Krishnan proportions?

even if he isn't even a human being....a battery operated paper mache model stapled together by satan himself ........hes still been the most entertaining interesting HM

so does all the bullsh*t really matter?

[Patrick]

He should win. End of.

Aaron played a game and deserved to win. GAME PLAYERS ARE THE BEST.

[CaudleHalbard]

Dexter has played Secrets & Lies well so, for BB14, the answer is yes he is a very much a worthy winner.

As would Gina be, although she has become a Hazel-obsessed idiot within the past few days.

[Beso]

Can we all call him Derek please.

[fingers]

He's a con man desperate to win the money, his desperation was palpable when he thought that Hazel had taken what is rightfully his money!

[lippyzippy]

Originally Posted by fingers

He's a con man desperate to win the money his desperation was palpable when he thought that Hazel had taken what is rightfully his money!

surely hes a man after your heart Mr Burns? if you had one

[CaudleHalbard]

BB is also a conman this year, so Dexter is a perfectly suited to being winner.

I have to admit though that Gina is way ahead of him so far as conning the public is concerned. The difference is, all the housemates know that most of what Dexter says about his working life is crap. NOBODY in there ever calls Gina out on her background.

To that extent, Gina is the better Secrets & Lies competitor.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by lippyzippy

surely hes a man after your heart Mr Burns? if you had one

Mr Burns is not a con man, he's despicable but never a con man, well, maybe just a little! Smithers still loves him.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

BB is also a conman this year, so Dexter is a perfectly suited to being winner.

I have to admit though that Gina is way ahead of him so far as conning the public is concerned. The difference is, all the housemates know that most of what Dexter says about his working life is crap. NOBODY in there ever calls Gina out on her background.

To that extent, Gina is the better Secrets & Lies competitor.

....and both of them were STILL pretending, tonight, that their backstories are genuine - she getting her "allowance" and him spending Ł120,000 on a champagne night out!

[smudgie]

Nope. Not a chance in hell of me spending a penny voting for either of that vile pair of con artists.

[Cocidius]

He's actually starting to get on my nerves. I hope he stops this sympathy thing soon we don't need two Charlie's in the house. Ugh.... So I hope he doesn't win but comes in 3rd

[lippyzippy]

Originally Posted by fingers

Mr Burns is not a con man, he's despicable but never a con man, well, maybe just a little! Smithers still loves him.

well monty burns did in fact pollute the waters of springfield to such a degree it produced 3 eyed fish , he tried to destroy a baby girl and then tried to destroy her father....he also destroyed the loch ness monster, and in one episode he nuked his own town....at which point Waylon smithers declared his unrequited love for burnsey.....as the end of the world approached a stoney faced mr burns turned and sad, thank you for making my few remaining moments on earth socially awkward....

a sure fire big brother winner

[CaudleHalbard]

Almost past caring who wins now except I will be rather irritated if it is Snoozemeister Sam.

[the_answers]

What is a "gameplayer" ?

- Forming alliances to put yourself in with the best chance.
- Playing up to the camera.
- Pretending to be something or someone you're really not.
- Putting your own needs before others.

All may be acceptable or not.

YOU decide !

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

BB is also a conman this year, so Dexter is a perfectly suited to being winner.

I have to admit though that Gina is way ahead of him so far as conning the public is concerned. The difference is, all the housemates know that most of what Dexter says about his working life is crap. NOBODY in there ever calls Gina out on her background.

To that extent, Gina is the better Secrets & Lies competitor.

Exactly !

We know he's a rascal within the house (and that's fine by me) and I really don't mind any exaggerations of his outside life either.

But if his "good guy" character going on this "journey" (which may still be true) comes across too fake or insincere then perhaps he's failed on both fronts.

He's still a man of mystery to some extent.

But when Charlie told him there was nothing sexual he lost his cool and came across as a bit of selfish, showing up his gameplan in the process.

What I will say is he's the ONE candidate with the best chance of appearing semi-genuine AND entertaining.

But if I'm not convinced his heart is in the right place (and he's walking a tightrope right now) then it's "best gameplayer" and "entertainer" i.e. Gina all the way for me.

[smeagol]

if he was playing the game all this time then he deserves to win as thats some serious acting makes de nero look like a two bit extra lol
if he isn't then he is genuine and misunderstood hence his reactions to being saved and for that reason deserves to win

or forget both just basing on entertaining wise he deserves to win.

[sampvt]

I guess it all comes down to what kind of person you feel should win. A conman that has made tv moments or a nice guy that has been funny sometimes but avoided conflict the rest of the time. Personally I wouldn't give a conman a penny for anything regardless of how funny or entertaining he has been, but that's just me.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I guess it all comes down to what kind of person you feel should win. A conman that has made tv moments or a nice guy that has been funny sometimes but avoided conflict the rest of the time. Personally I wouldn't give a conman a penny for anything regardless of how funny or entertaining he has been, but that's just me.

He's not a con man. He's a PR guy.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by lippyzippy

is he still the worthy winner?

lets be fair no one knows who the heck dexter is....not even dexter?
is he a magician? a cult leader? a stud muffin? a pimp daddy? a failed cabaret artist? a muff diver? a chutney ferret? does he swim upstream or downstream? does he even fish at all? is he a gambling addict? a sex addict? does he have OCT? is he ruthless and mean? or soft and emotional? are they the tears of a man redeemed or the crocodile tears of a fake clown?

im beginning to think hes a cult leader of hari Krishnan proportions?

even if he isn't even a human being....a battery operated paper mache model stapled together by satan himself ........hes still been the most entertaining interesting HM

so does all the bullsh*t really matter?

Nah I don't want the fake Dexter or is it Derek,lol, to win,we know who he is,he is a false,sly and crafty pap,who thinks he is a lot more.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's not a con man. He's a PR guy.

PR my arse. He opened a company called white horse or something, with a Ł1 stake 3 weeks before he came in the house. It has not traded and he has never operated as a PR operative EVER. He is a bad paparazzi and the only other link to business he has is his father (who wants nothing to do with him) owned some clubs in the past that Dexter was never involved in, and that's it. Also he has never owned a roller, in fact he isn't even registered as a car owner at the moment that we know of.

He is potless living in a flat in Greater Manchester and dreams of making it big off the back of BB and people like you are being sucked in hook line and sinker and I for one think it is sooooo funny because everyone knows whats coming. When he gets out the Dexter fan base will all be left with egg on their faces WHEN THE TRUTH COMES OUT and they will all sing the same song, its called ''WELL HE WAS ENTERTAINING ANYWAY'' People tend to make excuses for bad judgement and its going to be so good to hear.

[south12345]

People are saying that Dexter is the biggest gameplayer in the house and i have to agree with them, after all its a game show and everyone in there has a game plan, even if its simply to be themselves
The problem is Dexter's not the best gameplayer in there. If he were he would be top of the leader board, not up for eviction every week, and not have such a big "hate" following...

First impressions stick with me and he came into the house as a smarmy, egotistical wannabe and im afraid that is how i still see him. Regardless of his change of tactics i just cannot warm to the guy. Once a liar always a liar and hes been caught out several times elaborating the truth.
As an ideal HM i guess he fits the bill, because it gives everyone something to talk about, but to win, i hope not......

[sampvt]

The definition of con man is confidence trixster. A man that pretends to be something he is not for either financial or ethical gain. Dexter is playing like a con man but in essence he is a bad one. He has been up for eviction every week which means his fellow HM,s have rumbled him. The public know his game and he changes his mind more often that I change my underpants. The only people that refute these claims are some of his own supporters. When the little weasel comes out and gets challenged he will simply say I was playing a game and laugh. no big deal eh, it is after all a game.

[Northern Monkey]

I don't mind if Dexter wins tbh,or Sam,I like them both.

[Vanessa]

Dexter is the best housemate we've has since Aaron. I want him to win so much i'm willing to vote like i've never voted before!

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The definition of con man is confidence trixster. A man that pretends to be something he is not for either financial or ethical gain. Dexter is playing like a con man but in essence he is a bad one. He has been up for eviction every week which means his fellow HM,s have rumbled him. The public know his game and he changes his mind more often that I change my underpants. The only people that refute these claims are some of his own supporters. When the little weasel comes out and gets challenged he will simply say I was playing a game and laugh. no big deal eh, it is after all a game.

there all types of conmen/women.

sophie who 100% has a plan lays back sticks int he odd knife where needed and retreats. thats a con she hasn't been herself
sam who knows he will win cause of his disability and sleeps all day avoiding noms etc to win.learns a joke book as a way of winning over the public very sneaky con trick that. he isnt that nice its a established trick
gina and her acting up for the cams another trick/con
the twins with their pre worked out routines they thought they'd sail through and win. biggest tricks and cons of them all though obvious.
dexter might be the only one who actually did throw his plan out the window like he said he did and what you see lately is him.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by smeagol

there all types of conmen/women.

sophie who 100% has a plan lays back sticks int he odd knife where needed and retreats. thats a con she hasn't been herself
sam who knows he will win cause of his disability and sleeps all day avoiding noms etc to win.learns a joke book as a way of winning over the public very sneaky con trick that. he isnt that nice its a established trick
gina and her acting up for the cams another trick/con
the twins with their pre worked out routines they thought they'd sail through and win. biggest tricks and cons of them all though obvious.
dexter might be the only one who actually did throw his plan out the window like he said he did and what you see lately is him.

I agree in part but you are not boxing fair when you intermingle con man with game player. the others are liars and game players but dexter is the only out and out conman. You say he ditched his act some time ago. Well he must be slipping because he mentioned this week that he regrets spending 120k on a bottle of bubbly. Please get your story straight and we can debate further.

The words you are struggling to say are.....ok we accept he is a conman but he entertains us then it comes down to whether you are the type of person that supports a conmans efforts to win the show with lies and fake emotions. I would applaud that and give you Kudos.

Untill then, lets agree that he is a little **** and doesent deserve to win using tactics that go way beyond game playing. Aaron was a nice guy with a great gameplan and he cant be lumped into the same bag as Dexter, they are worlds apart.