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Originally Posted by Jesus.

Not every young person, just a large majority.

So a majority is 51%. A large majority to me would be 60-70%, then I'd say a "very large majority" would be around 80% which would be just under 6million of the 7.4 million young people in the uk.

I don't agree with that at all. I think it's an easy thing to label people.

When I have more time later on today, I will drag up some kind of stat that shows the amount of people that visit their local high st on a saturday night

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Charlotte Crosby, to me epitomises everything that is wrong with the youth of modern Britain.

Courtney Stodden whilst having an annoyingly high pitched voice, I think is very sweet.

Discuss...

I have to disagree. Thh I don't think much of either, but I do think that Courtney's lack of dignity and aspirations as a modern young woman, other than to hook a rich guy and look like a barbie doll is very harming to young vulnerable girls - this thread being testamy to that.

[Jemal]

I'm a Youth of Britain but im in no way like Charlotte. But then again im not a woman.
Tbfh just change the title to something more understanding cynical lool

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

When I have more time later on today, I will drag up some kind of stat that shows the amount of people that visit their local high st on a saturday night

OK. Just to clarify though, every young person visiting the town centre doesn't end up being air-tight in the toilets, before releasing their bowels in their knickers on the way home, whilst sucking the grease out of kebab meat.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

That's not the impression i've got, not if you read between the lines at least. She spent hours on the first night worrying about her bloody stuffed toy for god sake. How more innocent can you get? She's also a Christian, which I didn't know before.

What have I learnt about the Geordie? She likes burping, farting, drinking and basically just being as obnoxious and 'outrageous' as she can.

You don't worry about a grown woman worrying about a soft toy? Just all part of the act. How anyone can call her innocent is so laughable it isn't even funny. Not innocent -either very calculating or completely thick.

[Jemal]

I won't lie Charlotte is so disgusting and repulsive.
She doesn't do the girls of Britain any favours in how they may come across. Then you have on launch night people cheering her name after the foul things she said. It does make you wonder if people in Britain are proud to have those kind of women in our society

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

I specifically said I am not labeling 'every young person' just a very large majority.

So instead you would prefer British women to have minds like children but with their boobs and crotch on display for all to see. Really not much to choose between them is there?

Oh please tell me you are being sarky when you refer to Courtney as innocent and god fearing, I just might give up on the human race altogether otherwise.

[Yayita]

Both are extreme and exagerated depictions of some young people and that is that. American teens are not like Courtney or Charlotte and I'm sure the UK teens arent either. END OFF!!

[smudgie]

Too much generalisation.

Neither girl represents all of their peer group. We will all have our own opinion n them both and that is what matters to us I suppose.

Charlotte is a bit ott with her bad manners etc but I can't help wondering if a lot of it is to do with the show she is on.
You have always had the "youth of the day" that will go out and drink too much, as indeed quite a few older people do.
The difference between today and in my day is that they have more money to spend nowadays.
Underneath all the bad manners and foul language etc I can actually see a canny lass, hopefully she will grow up into a more self respecting young lady one day.

Courtney comes across as a nice enough girl,rather dull for her age if I am honest. I do find it had to believe she has just turned 19. She looks a lot older, maybe she has had a hard life, it can't be easy getting married at 16 and more or less missing out on your youth.
Hoping she will open up a bit more and enjoy herself.....but quietly, the voice is awful.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

So instead you would prefer British women to have minds like children but with their boobs and crotch on display for all to see. Really not much to choose between them is there?

Oh please tell me you are being sarky when you refer to Courtney as innocent and god fearing, I just might give up on the human race altogether otherwise.

I am commenting on her/their character. Their dress sense is of no concern to me.

God fearing = respectful of God. Yes, she is.

Innocent = being concerned over a toy of hers. Yes.

Mind like a child? Are you suggesting she has some kind of mental retardation ? Odd

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

OK. Just to clarify though, every young person visiting the town centre doesn't end up being air-tight in the toilets, before releasing their bowels in their knickers on the way home, whilst sucking the grease out of kebab meat.

In response, I would like to refer you to this thread

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=236241

Or maybe this one

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=236182

I have no intention of searching for stats, I was being sarcastic.

[Kizzy]

There are some that are like those two, for some it's just a phase I've seen Geordie shore once they aren't all like them though, we can't write off a whole generation haha!

[Niamh.]

Back on topic everyone, I don't want to have to close the thread

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Back on topic everyone, I don't want to have to close the thread

Apologies Niamh.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

I am commenting on her/their character. Their dress sense is of no concern to me.

God fearing = respectful of God. Yes, she is.

Innocent = being concerned over a toy of hers. Yes.

Mind like a child? Are you suggesting she has some kind of mental retardation ? Odd

Innocent does not equal looking like a barbie with all that surgery and dressing like a tart. She can dress how she pleases, but lets not pretend she is innocent.

A grown woman being concerned about a toy is not normal or innocent - it is weird, either calculated to make her appear innocent or maybe she is even two pennies short of a sixpence. If the cap fits.

[Kazanne]

Didn't Courtney do some porn at some point?

[Northern Monkey]

Charlotte farts.If Courtney farts(which i doubt),It would smell like strawberry Bon Bons and Peaches.When Charlotte farts i would imagine it smells like 4 day old sewage.Charlotte pisses herself and ****s herself.I can't imagine that Courtney even goes to the toilet and if she does she excretes rose petals and fairy dust.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Innocent does not equal looking like a barbie with all that surgery and dressing like a tart. She can dress how she pleases, but lets not pretend she is innocent.

A grown woman being concerned about a toy is not normal or innocent - it is weird, either calculated to make her appear innocent or maybe she is even two pennies short of a sixpence. If the cap fits.

So by your assumption all adults that are into toys, games, comics, anime etc are weird, right? Ok

Doesn't make it wrong. She is harming nobody.

I have seen nothing that suggests she is calculating in any way. Drawing that conclusion says more about you than it does her.


Two pennies short of a sixpence? She is 18 years old and a millionaire.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Didn't Courtney do some porn at some point?

Jeez I hope not, she's only 18 and she's been married since she was 16 to a pretty wealthy man

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Didn't Courtney do some porn at some point?

No idea, using what she has to earn a living is not a crime. There are men out there stupid enough to line her pockets, so good luck to her.

[DanaC]

Ok, I'll bite.

Setting aside the fact that neither of these two young women represent the youth of their country in any real sense: I think Courtney is more worrying than Charlotte.

I like her. She is very sweet. But she plays to the 'little girl' sweetness. The thing with the bunny, the artificially high pitched voice.

I see in her a kind of infantilised sexuality.

Charlotte is coarse. Though much of what she talks about (getting so drunk she pisses herself, or vomits) is not much different to a kind of 'laddishness'. With lads, we roll our eyes and say they'll grow out of it. Boys being boys. It is more shocking when it comes from a young lady.

Now, I see a kind of innocence in Charlotte. More so in some ways than with Courtney, who seems to have a very clear idea of how to use every head tilt, leg lift and giggle to her advantage. But Charlotte is not infantilised, she is just young. And her body is a natural body, over which she has absolute control. Her sexuality is one of self-empowerment, it is not hidden behind pink princess naivety.

Of the two, to me, Courtney seems to represent a form of femininity that is deeply damaging to society. An unnatural physical shape achievable only through radical surgery; a sexuality founded in childlike helplessness.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Jeez I hope not, she's only 18 and she's been married since she was 16 to a pretty wealthy man

I'm sure I saw or heard somewhere she did a bit,but not 100%,unless it was someone else

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Ok, I'll bite.

Setting aside the fact that neither of these two young women represent the youth of their country in any real sense: I think Courtney is more worrying than Charlotte.

I like her. She is very sweet. But she plays to the 'little girl' sweetness. The thing with the bunny, the artificially high pitched voice.

I see in her a kind of infantilised sexuality.

Charlotte is coarse. Though much of what she talks about (getting so drunk she pisses herself, or vomits) is not much different to a kind of 'laddishness'. With lads, we roll our eyes and say they'll grow out of it. Boys being boys. It is more shocking when it comes from a young lady.

Now, I see a kind of innocence in Charlotte. More so in some ways than with Courtney, who seems to have a very clear idea of how to use every head tilt, leg lift and giggle to her advantage. But Charlotte is not infantilised, she is just young. And her body is a natural body, over which she has absolute control. Her sexuality is one of self-empowerment, it is not hidden behind pink princess naivety.

Of the two, to me, Courtney seems to represent a form of femininity that is deeply damaging to society. An unnatural physical shape achievable only through radical surgery; a sexuality founded in childlike helplessness.

I maybe wrong, but are you suggesting that she is pandering to paedophilic ideals that are upheld by the male race?

[DanaC]

No. I am saying she falls into an ages old cultural pattern. It is no accident that the holy book of Christianity has its messiah born to a virgin girl.

Female sexuality has been a source of unease for our culture for a very, very long time. Infantilising femininity makes it less dangerous and threatening.

Not just our culture. Plenty of cultures remove adulthood from female sexuality. Footbinding in China was from the basic desire.

[thediaryroomchair]

Some of the youth in Britain today behave appallingly and have no respect for themselves and for their elders. I have a younger sister and she is an absolute credit, she worked hard in her GCSEs and BTEC and does not answer back and is very career minded. Unlike some I see in my local town who insult me for the team I support using four letter expletives to boot.