[arista]

One Copper said
he prefered to call them "Welfare Centres"
The Drunk gets billed for his care




"Police chiefs have backed privately-run
drunk tanks where intoxicated revellers
are kept overnight and made to pay for their stay.
Chief Constable Adrian Lee, the national
policing lead on alcohol harm, said drunken
individuals should be held in cells run by a
commercial company.
He made his comments at the start of a
week-long campaign to highlight the
impact of alcohol on policing."


http://news.sky.com/story/1143123/po...-for-revellers
Video.





http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...ank-initiative
Link for Kizzy



Sign Of The Times

[Kate!]

Great idea, but there'll be a lot of moaning about it from the pisshead brigade.

[joeysteele]

I could be persuaded to support something along those lines I guess.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I could be persuaded to support something along those lines I guess.

Matt Wright on Ch5HD
joked your Drunk
and in the morning a Ł400 Fine

[arista]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Great idea, but there'll be a lot of moaning about it from the pisshead brigade.

Yes and Vicky

[billy123]

Interesting idea but impossible to implement by a private company as they have no right to detain people thats called kidnapping.
So not going to happen.
The dumbtards at the daily mail must be behind the story somewhere surely.

Treat the cause and not the symptom it will be far more effective.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Interesting idea but impossible to implement by a private company as they have no right to detain people thats called kidnapping.
So not going to happen.
The dumbtards at the daily mail must be behind the story somewhere surely.

Treat the cause and not the symptom it will be far more effective.

Wrong its on BBCNews
and every News.



It was a Copper that set up the idea.

[Cherie]

Brilliant idea, get them to pay for it, they might think again once they are hit in the pocket. I think this could be very effective :

[arista]

[Livia]

I think it's a wonderful idea.

[MTVN]

Sounds silly, seems very infeasible to actually enforce and surely it will just be pretty arbitrary as to how drunk is 'too drunk' and if these companies are profiting from it they'll be more inclined to force people to stay in these 'tanks' and charge them even if it wasn't hugely necessary. Ł400 is a ridiculous price to pay for getting a bit too drunk

[Beso]

Id be wanting more drink and a prostitute and a nice breakfast in the morning for that price.

[Kizzy]

It's the most pathetic thing I think I have ever heard...
We really are regressing as a society, it's saddening to be witness to this decline.
24hr drinking hasn't worked, stop it and you will see a dramatic improvement, but no.... no moneys to be made doing that.
Q.'How can we make money from alcoholics and binge drinkers?'
A.'allow supermarkets to sell cheap booze 24/7, never close the bars and fine people for being drunk!'

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's the most pathetic thing I think I have ever heard...
We really are regressing as a society, it's saddening to be witness to this decline.
24hr drinking hasn't worked, stop it and you will see a dramatic improvement, but no.... no moneys to be made doing that.
Q.'How can we make money from alcoholics and binge drinkers?'
A.'allow supermarkets to sell cheap booze 24/7, never close the bars and fine people for being drunk!'

Its pathetic how greedy and selfish society has become.
They would soon change their tune if one of their children was to die in one of these privately run (i.e. forever cost cutting profit motivated) Drunk tanks.

Its an utterly moronic idea.
Nobodys in any doubt its a problem but instead of greedy little pigs profiting from it and revelling in their holier than thou attitudes the problem needs to be addressed at its source rather than trying to profit from the result of it.

Educating kids about the dangers of alcohol abuse properly at school and stopping glamorizing it on tv with crap like geordie shore would be a responsible start.

Treat the problem at its root because treating the result of the problem achieves nothing.

By all means fine the people that are stupid enough to be picked up in a pile of their own piss and vomit and taken to hospital but put that money to the NHS and towards educating children not to do that in the first place.

The problem is its seen as fun and a cool thing to do and it will take a generation to change that perception.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Its pathetic how greedy and selfish society has become.
They would soon change their tune if one of their children was to die in one of these privately run (i.e. forever cost cutting profit motivated) Drunk tanks.

Its an utterly moronic idea.
Nobodys in any doubt its a problem but instead of greedy little pigs profiting from it and revelling in their holier than thou attitudes the problem needs to be addressed at its source rather than trying to profit from the result of it.

Educating kids about the dangers of alcohol abuse properly at school and stopping glamorizing it on tv with crap like geordie shore would be a responsible start.

Treat the problem at its root because treating the result of the problem achieves nothing.

By all means fine the people that are stupid enough to be picked up in a pile of their own piss and vomit and taken to hospital but put that money to the NHS and towards educating children not to do that in the first place.

The problem is its seen as fun and a cool thing to do and it will take a generation to change that perception.

..but one counteracts the other though and that's probably partly the problem...schools do teach about the dangers of alcohol/cigarettes/ drugs etc and being responsible...and from a very early age..but people often listen to their peers more than they do teachers/parents etc...who are well known to 'not understand these things'....

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Id be wanting more drink and a prostitute and a nice breakfast in the morning for that price.

You will be kept Alive


America wants this.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Its pathetic how greedy and selfish society has become.
They would soon change their tune if one of their children was to die in one of these privately run (i.e. forever cost cutting profit motivated) Drunk tanks.

Its an utterly moronic idea.
Nobodys in any doubt its a problem but instead of greedy little pigs profiting from it and revelling in their holier than thou attitudes the problem needs to be addressed at its source rather than trying to profit from the result of it.

Educating kids about the dangers of alcohol abuse properly at school and stopping glamorizing it on tv with crap like geordie shore would be a responsible start.

Treat the problem at its root because treating the result of the problem achieves nothing.

By all means fine the people that are stupid enough to be picked up in a pile of their own piss and vomit and taken to hospital but put that money to the NHS and towards educating children not to do that in the first place.

The problem is its seen as fun and a cool thing to do and it will take a generation to change that perception.

Some really excellent points there bob, I was going to mention the possibility of deaths in 'custody' what safeguards will be in place to prevent this?
Who and how will they decide who goes, what's the 'limit'... 2 pints?..20 pints?

[Cherie]

Would someone who is incapable due to drink or drugs be any safer in a police cell?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Would someone who is incapable due to drink or drugs be any safer in a police cell?

I don't know, the police have procedures but the main issue is the buck stops with them.
Who are going to regulate and inspect this new facility, will they be accountable to anyone?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't know, the police have procedures but the main issue is the buck stops with them.
Who are going to regulate and inspect this new facility, will they be accountable to anyone?

I haven't read alot about it tbh, but I would imagine like anything run for the public there would be have to be very strict guidelines and procedures, it would be a disaster otherwise as detainee could claim abuse or rape or anything in between while they were being held! Not sure who would want to take this on in the private sector it seems like a minefield, especially if the detainee didn't pay up after their night in the cells.

[Vicky.]

Just another attempt to make money IMO.

I would be all for it if it was just for these who get so drunk that the end up lying in a gutter or something..and was actually for their safety above all else, but since theres profit to be made, I feel it would be abused hugely.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Just another attempt to make money IMO.

I would be all for it if it was just for these who get so drunk that the end up lying in a gutter or something..and was actually for their safety above all else, but since theres profit to be made, I feel it would be abused hugely.

Sure but its a Private Company
The Way of the World.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Would someone who is incapable due to drink or drugs be any safer in a police cell?

No
Worse off

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I haven't read alot about it tbh, but I would imagine like anything run for the public there would be have to be very strict guidelines and procedures, it would be a disaster otherwise as detainee could claim abuse or rape or anything in between while they were being held! Not sure who would want to take this on in the private sector it seems like a minefield, especially if the detainee didn't pay up after their night in the cells.

Like care homes?.... There have been well documented failings in this sector, vulnerable people abused and yet the organisations involved remain unregulated.

[Livia]

I don't understand why Brits, seemingly more than most other people, have this strange relationship with alcohol. People have to go out and drink until their incapable, they don't seem to be able to have a few drinks and enjoy an evening, they have to get mangled. It's embarrassing to see the state of some people, fighting, throwing up, young women making themselves vulnerable... Something has to be done rather than allowing the madness to continue.