[Z]

Glenn do you talk to your brother about it?

[Glenn.]

Yeah we talk about it all the time. It doesn't phase him tbh. I always worried how people would treat me. I came out to him first because he had already done it.

He helped a lot

[Z]

That's good, at least you have each other! It's your dad's loss if he wants to ignore you for something you can't change

[lostalex]

It's impossible to study because there's no way to tell who is gay and who's not because so many gay people are in the closet. Also what does gay mean? Does it mean any one that has ANY sexual attraction to the same sex? or does it only mean people who have full on relationships with the same sex? or does it mean anyone who's ever had actual sex with someone of the same sex? Does it mean just people who label themselves gay?

We can't even define what gay means so how can we actually study it?

As far as my romantic and sexual attraction to men, I personally believe it is biological. I certainly never made any kind of "choice" to be gay and there is nothing in my childhood that I could point to and think "that might have made me gay".

[Glenn.]

My brother always says, 'We're not the abnormal ones'

Its only my dad that has a problem with it. The rest of the family embraced it like it was the norm. My grandad was a bit on the fence and if he disagree with it, he keeps it to himself instead of vomiting ignorant bile. My dad on the other hand is a different kettle of fish.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

I'm not offended.

Speaking personally, it isn't a choice I made to feel the way I do about men. It affects my relationship with my dad to the point where I don't like him a lot of the time and vice versa. He's dead against gay people in every shape and form. My brother is gay and he's in a serious relationship with another man, one day I think they will get married and my father has stated quite ignorantly, that he wont be attending, and that he doesn't agree with it. No one would choose to be outcasted and made to feel inadequate of their own accord.

Although I have had relationships with women, (one quite serious, until she cheated on me ) I'm now settled within myself about my feelings towards men but like I say, it affects my relationship with my dad, and we were once quite close. When he got wind that I liked cock he slipped away. I wish it was different of course, but thats the way it is.

If only it was a choice I could make

awww that's terrible Glenn I just don't understand how a parent could do that. I hope he realizes that as well

[Glenn.]

It doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would tbh. It's more annoying then anything. Sometimes the things he says are so ridiculously stupid it makes me laugh.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

It doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would tbh. It's more annoying then anything. Sometimes the things he says are so ridiculously stupid it makes me laugh.

Well, he's the one who's going to miss out in the end

[Glenn.]

He'll miss out on a top notch wedding if I ever get married that's for sure.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

He'll miss out on a top notch wedding if I ever get married that's for sure.

I'm glad you have good support in the rest of your family though

[Glenn.]

It does put a strain on the family though, especially with my mum. The arguments they've had about it. But I am lucky to have such a supportive family. They're the best

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

It does put a strain on the family though, especially with my mum. The arguments they've had about it. But I am lucky to have such a supportive family. They're the best

Must be really hard for her, i couldn't imagine being in that position

[Z]

Maybe your dad hated a gay guy when he was young and now it really bothers him that his sons are gay. I always think about that whenever I see homophobic abuse; would these people say these things if one of their kids turned out to be gay? Hopefully he'll get over himself eventually Glenn!

[Glenn.]

I think he's just a prick tbh

He's just an ignorant pig if I'm honest. I don't really like him much.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Glenn

I think he's just a prick tbh

He's just an ignorant pig if I'm honest. I don't really like him much.

At least the rest of your family are supportive!