[Lee.]

Men with more traditional values will open doors for women, give up their seat for them, help them out a car and pull their seat out at dinner.

Do you consider this to be good manners or downright chauvinism?

... Wait for the poll!

[Niamh.]

who's Nen?

[Smithy]

no, it's just being polite (but i do it for everyone not just women, so maybe that's just me)

[Lee.]

Wot?

[Josy]

^^^ I fixed it.

Good manners IMO

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

no, it's just being polite

This ^ I wouldn't expect it from them or think any less of men who don't do those things but these are nice things to do

[Shaun]

I don't do it for a specific gender, I just do it anyway

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

^^^ I fixed it.

Good manners IMO

Damn you

[Cherie]

Good manners yes, but if we are all equal, shouldn't we be opening doors for men? as women's manners are equally good

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Good manners yes, but if we are all equal, shouldn't we be opening doors for men? as women's manners are equally good

I open doors for men if I reach a door first I always hold it open whether it's a man or woman behind me

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I open doors for men if I reach a door first I always hold it open whether it's a man or woman behind me

Me too.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I open doors for men if I reach a door first I always hold it open whether it's a man or woman behind me

Yeah.. So do I.. But I mean if you're out with a man and he actually makes a point if getting the door for you and allowing you to go in first before him?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Yeah.. So do I.. But I mean if you're out with a man and he actually makes a point if getting the door for you and allowing you to go in first before him?

Like I said I wouldn't expect it of him but if he did it I wouldn't think badly of him for doing so no, of course not. Gavin always does that when we're out

[Ammi]

..I don't think that I particularly notice if it's a male or female when they do it but just generally think it's a nice thing to do and say thank you and would also do it for others of either gender if someone was following me into a shop etc or step aside and let someone coming the other way go first....

[reece(:]

Politeness but I still believe both to be equal.

[Chuck]

I don't even think men who do all those things were raised with "traditional values".
They're just polite IMO.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Good manners yes, but if we are all equal, shouldn't we be opening doors for men? as women's manners are equally good

I think if I went and helped my hubby out the far, then opened the restaurant door for him and let him go in first, he'd feel like I was trying to make him my bitch

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I don't do it for a specific gender, I just do it anyway

This^

[Vicky.]

Just good manners. I do it for others too

[Z]

I think it's just polite, I do it for anyone

[joeysteele]

No but sadly a fair few women do. as someone said above they open and hold doors open for anyone not just women,I do that as well.

However the times I have had from women, ''I am quite capable of opening doors myself'',or, ''I have no need for help'' and then a few I got was ''damn young people,thinking older people are helpless''.

I still do it but it does irritate me the lack of consideration at times.

[Lee.]

Hmm.. Maybe I should have worded it different...

I think the majority if people are mannerable enough to hold doors etc open for people.

I suppose I was talking about whilst on a date?

[Firewire]

Polite, I do it for anyone. I wouldn't hold the door if someone was too far away though.

[AnnieK]

I expect doors opened, chair pulled out, napkin placed on my lap, grapes peeled and then on the way home if its raining he better take off his coat and lay it on the floor so I don't have to stand in puddles! Its just manners!

Only joking, its nice but I wouldn't think any less of someone who didn't do those things but I don't feel its chauvenistic

[mizzy25]

No its good manners.