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Crimson Dynamo · 23-01-2014, 03:09 PM

Obviously praying does not work because murmuring to yourself will never change anything

Praying to your god of choice is also futile as the many and various gods are both not real and useless as stopping any misery that the world throws up.

Yet we still hear about thoughts and prayers and pray this and pray that. Yes Its a hangover from a superstitious earlier time but how do you feel about it?

It seems to more now mean "thinking about something, perhaps with many others"?

King Gizzard · 23-01-2014, 03:19 PM

If it gives people hope and strength in hard times then it's a good thing as far as I'm concerned, even if it doesn't do anything. Don't see that much wrong with it.

Crimson Dynamo · 23-01-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

If it gives people hope and strength in hard times then it's a good thing as far as I'm concerned, even if it doesn't do anything. Don't see that much wrong with it.

How does it do that?

Roy Mars III · 23-01-2014, 03:49 PM

i am a foxhole prayer

AnnieK · 23-01-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

If it gives people hope and strength in hard times then it's a good thing as far as I'm concerned, even if it doesn't do anything. Don't see that much wrong with it.

Agreed....for some it gives them solace and peace. Everyone deals with their issues in their own way. Their beliefs are exactly that, THEIRS and shouldn't concern anyone else. Calling people deranged for doing so is extremely offensive.

Kate! · 23-01-2014, 03:57 PM

The second part of your post is a little offensive, hmmm. I'm not actively religious, don't attend church, but I do believe in a God, and have said informal prayers at certain times in my life.

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Originally Posted by Nathan

If it gives people hope and strength in hard times then it's a good thing as far as I'm concerned, even if it doesn't do anything. Don't see that much wrong with it.

Exactly this.

arista · 23-01-2014, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

If it gives people hope and strength in hard times then it's a good thing as far as I'm concerned, even if it doesn't do anything. Don't see that much wrong with it.

Yes for those at that Level in Life.

In private - no problem

Crimson Dynamo · 23-01-2014, 04:11 PM

I guess its back to wishful thinking again for humans as we deal with lifes futility and briefness

Crimson Dynamo · 23-01-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I must be mentally deranged then as I believe in God AND pray

Yes but which god do you believe is and which ones dont you believe in?

there are hundreds

Kazanne · 23-01-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Catweazel

Yes but which god do you believe is and which ones dont you believe in?

there are hundreds

I believe in my God and that's a personal thing

Kyle · 23-01-2014, 04:28 PM

Personally I wouldn't think of praying to a supposed entity that allegedly built this sh*thole of a planet but each to their own.

Josy · 23-01-2014, 04:29 PM

Some people can succeed in life without faith and some can't, some people turn to faith at bad times in their lives and some don't. Everyone has different outlooks on life so as long it's not personally affecting you in an negative way then my opinion is give them peace to do what they want with their own lives.

Crimson Dynamo · 23-01-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Some people can succeed in life without faith and some can't, some people turn to faith at bad times in their lives and some don't. Everyone has different outlooks on life so as long it's not personally affecting you in an negative way then my opinion is give them peace to do what they want with their own lives.

As long as we dont have this in schools or politics or medicine i dont think anyone cares.

Kazanne · 23-01-2014, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle

Personally I wouldn't think of praying to a supposed entity that allegedly built this sh*thole of a planet but each to their own.

Don't you think it's mainly down to humans that it is a ****hole?

Redway · 23-01-2014, 04:42 PM

Religion in general is a crock of old sh*t (IMO) but dismissing a massive proportion of people as 'mentally deranged' just because they believe in things you don't is absurd and it's this kind of attitude that tarnishes the reputation of non-believers.

Kyle · 23-01-2014, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Don't you think it's mainly down to humans that it is a ****hole?

Nope. I've seen my fair share of natural world shows to conclude that nature is one cruel bastard.

Nedusa · 23-01-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Agreed....for some it gives them solace and peace. Everyone deals with their issues in their own way. Their beliefs are exactly that, THEIRS and shouldn't concern anyone else. Calling people deranged for doing so is extremely offensive.

No it isn't it is the truth... Talking to an imaginary person is the first sign of mental illness and can quite comfortably be termed as deranged...

How you think think I am being offensive by stating the bleedin obvious is beyond me...!!!

Josy · 23-01-2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa

No it isn't it is the truth... Talking to an imaginary person is the first sign of mental illness and can quite comfortably be termed as deranged...

How you think think I am being offensive by stating the bleedin obvious is beyond me...!!!

Its an offensive post.

It is possible to get your point across with being insulting to numerous people in the process.

Redway · 23-01-2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa

No it isn't it is the truth... Talking to an imaginary person is the first sign of mental illness and can quite comfortably be termed as deranged...

How you think think I am being offensive by stating the bleedin obvious is beyond me...!!!

Nonsense. Offensive to people with mental health issues as well.

Nedusa · 23-01-2014, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kate*

The second part of your post is a little offensive, hmmm. I'm not actively religious, don't attend church, but I do believe in a God, and have said informal prayers at certain times in my life.

Exactly this.

OK.... Perhaps using the word deranged is a little strong perhaps I should have said a bit confused or perturbed

Nedusa · 23-01-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I must be mentally deranged then as I believe in God AND pray

I believe in God as well, I also believe if I ask God a question it's a safe bet I ain't gonna get a reply any time soon...

So after the first thousand times you speak with God (pray) you realise he may be listening but he ain't talking

Kyle · 23-01-2014, 05:01 PM

@Nedusa I think your a breath of fresh air in the debate section and I like your Farscape avatar but I think you would be a quality poster if you tempered your tongue a little.

Nedusa · 23-01-2014, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle

@Nedusa I think your a breath of fresh air in the debate section and I like your Farscape avatar but I think you would be a quality poster if you tempered your tongue a little.

Thanks Kyle, yes I think I jumped into this a bit too quick and am digging a hole for myself here.

For what it's worth NO I don't think people are mentally deranged for praying. It was a bad choice of language.

I should have just said it's not something I would do but each to their own.

No offence intended....!!

Kyle · 23-01-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa

Thanks Kyle, yes I think I jumped into this a bit too quick and am digging a hole for myself here.

For what it's worth NO I don't think people are mentally deranged for praying. It was a bad choice of language.

I should have just said it's not something I would do but each to their own

No offence intended....!!

No worries Nedusa. Totally agree.

arista · 23-01-2014, 05:12 PM

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