[Crimson Dynamo]

Should we defend the right to make jokes about religion?

I am sure a stand-up today would happily do a Catholic joke but would not be so sure to mock Islam. Celebs would happily twitter something satirical about Christianity but again, not Islam or perhaps Scientology (in the USA)

How do you feel about this?

Who is saying we don't have the right to make jokes about religion?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Who is saying we don't have the right to make jokes about religion?

As i said I doubt there are many stand ups doing Islamic material.

Also if Life of Brian was brought out as new this year, how do you think it would be received?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Catweazel

As i said I doubt there are many stand ups doing Islamic material.

Also if Life of Brian was brought out as new this year, how do you think it would be received?

I saw Jim Jeffries rip the piss out of Islam on one of his stand-ups.

Originally Posted by Catweazel

As i said I doubt there are many stand ups doing Islamic material.

Also if Life of Brian was brought out as new this year, how do you think it would be received?

The Islam issue is difficult. It's still a new religion that basically copies the religion that came before it, which in turn copied the religion that came before that.

Because of this, Islam isn't really comfortable with itself and it hasn't been forced to look at some of the more fundamental aspects of it's text, and it's still in a place where you can't even question one word of the Koran.

You also have the issue, that because Mohammed came along later and there are some accurate versions of his life (intertwined with lies and nonsense), it's even more difficult to encourage people to examine the texts in an academic fashion.

We just happen to live in a time where Islam has short man syndrome, like Christianity and Judaism have before. There are groups that are beginning to challenge these issues from within the religion, and that is a positive step forward. It doesn't matter what comedians do now, as it's irrelevant to Islam. I wouldn't risk my life to make jokes about a paedophile prophet who liked banging a 9yr old, but I'd make jokes about Moses ordering rape.

There shouldn't be a difference, but self preservation is golden.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Who is saying we don't have the right to make jokes about religion?

Muslims

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

The Islam issue is difficult. It's still a new religion that basically copies the religion that came before it, which in turn copied the religion that came before that.

Because of this, Islam isn't really comfortable with itself and it hasn't been forced to look at some of the more fundamental aspects of it's text, and it's still in a place where you can't even question one word of the Koran.

You also have the issue, that because Mohammed came along later and there are some accurate versions of his life (intertwined with lies and nonsense), it's even more difficult to encourage people to examine the texts in an academic fashion.

We just happen to live in a time where Islam has short man syndrome, like Christianity and Judaism have before. There are groups that are beginning to challenge these issues from within the religion, and that is a positive step forward. It doesn't matter what comedians do now, as it's irrelevant to Islam. I wouldn't risk my life to make jokes about a paedophile prophet who liked banging a 9yr old, but I'd make jokes about Moses ordering rape.

There shouldn't be a difference, but self preservation is golden.

Great post

[Z]

I think it's important that programs like South Park make an effort to be equal opportunity offenders and make fun of everyone and everything; if you were to characterise Islam as a person it'd be that really angry small kid in class who goes around hollering at the top of its voice at the slightest bit of perceived criticism.

[smeagol]

There should be no rules with comedy after all its just comedy.
all comedians do religious jokes some sneakier than others so they dont get into trouble

john bishop done one the other day about the headgear muslims wear, he said that joke wont be in the show when i get to birmingham

on a film last night guy says give ma blowjob. woman says no im jewish i dont eat pork

[GiRTh]

Its possible to offend people by using bad language, sex, violence, drug use etc but if you truly want to be hated by millions then take the p*ss out of religion. I find it amazing that people are so passionate - and even prepared to kill or die for their religion - few things stir up so much emotion. I think religion is fair game for satire but be warned you may end getting death threats if you do.

[Nedusa]

I agree with last poster, religion is fair game for comedy and it is still not illegal to use religion in a comedy act, but be careful which religions you pick on and how far you go as some of the newer religions do have a high proportion of followers that take exception to anything said in jest and they can be quite extreme in their desire for revenge...!!!

[Alf]

If Jesus had have lived within the last 50 years, would Christians wear necklaces/chains with an electric chair pendant?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by wannashag

If Jesus had have lived within the last 50 years, would Christians wear necklaces/chains with an electric chair pendant?

Originally Posted by wannashag

If Jesus had have lived within the last 50 years, would Christians wear necklaces/chains with an electric chair pendant?

If he had lived recently, American Christians would be the first people to kill him, with his socialist message of giving to the poor, and loving each other. Imagine him on 9/12 asking OBL to fly planes into his other cheek?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

If he had lived recently, American Christians would be the first people to kill him, with his socialist message of giving to the poor, and loving each other. Imagine him on 9/12 asking OBL to fly planes into his other cheek?

If Jesus had lived recently, he'd probably be locked in a mental institution

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If Jesus had lived recently, he'd probably be locked in a mental institution

Or taken to Area 51 and have loads of secret invasive medical tests carried out on him....!!!!

[Redway]

Originally Posted by arista

Muslims

Some.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If Jesus had lived recently, he'd probably be locked in a mental institution

Or he'd be in an American Pie film turning wine into virgiiiiiinssssss

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

If he had lived recently, American Christians would be the first people to kill him, with his socialist message of giving to the poor, and loving each other. Imagine him on 9/12 asking OBL to fly planes into his other cheek?

luisa from big brother would invite him to one of her parties.
he would end up in bb after a few years

[the truth]

we can only joke about Christianity ....the only people who can mock other religions are those within those religions, otherwise the race card is usually played from the bottom of the deck

[user104658]

I personally find religion to be its own self-sustaining joke. No need for external satire, really.

Although I will point out that Christianity is not entirely fair game... Anyone remember Frankie Boyles channel 4 sketch show? His mission was to get it off air. a sketch featuring a time traveller posing as Jesus being desperately wanked off (as this was what activated the time travel) whilst on the cross was what did it in the end

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

The Islam issue is difficult. It's still a new religion that basically copies the religion that came before it, which in turn copied the religion that came before that.

Because of this, Islam isn't really comfortable with itself and it hasn't been forced to look at some of the more fundamental aspects of it's text, and it's still in a place where you can't even question one word of the Koran.

You also have the issue, that because Mohammed came along later and there are some accurate versions of his life (intertwined with lies and nonsense), it's even more difficult to encourage people to examine the texts in an academic fashion.

We just happen to live in a time where Islam has short man syndrome, like Christianity and Judaism have before. There are groups that are beginning to challenge these issues from within the religion, and that is a positive step forward. It doesn't matter what comedians do now, as it's irrelevant to Islam. I wouldn't risk my life to make jokes about a paedophile prophet who liked banging a 9yr old, but I'd make jokes about Moses ordering rape.

There shouldn't be a difference, but self preservation is golden.

I love the way we all talk about religion like it has some sort of sound rational logical basis...........it hasn't pure Bunkum, Hogwash. fantasy nonsense

Invented by man to try and pave the way into non existance with a glimmer of hope based on well ,actually......nothing !

Anyway I don't want this post to be a religion bashing thread as one's personal spiritual views are not the same as organised religion, but to go back to the point YES Religion should be satirised and pointed out at every opportunity how complete and utterly ridiculous it actually is:-

Cant eat Pork
Can't eat Shellfish
Can't eat Beef
Cant eat at all for one Month a year during daylight hours
Can't drink Alcohol during Lent
Can't drink Alcohol at all
Must Pray every day (ie Talk to a non existant being)
Must Pray 5 times a day
Cant show your Hair
Cant show your legs
Can't show anything - Just wear a small black tent
Must wear a Turban
Can't ever wash or cut your Hair - Rastafarians


This is only the beginning of a very long list, my hope is that future generations will look back in a thousand years time with a wistful smile at how oddly we used to act in the name of RELIGION....

Satirise it, Mock it ? Oh Yes............Mock the Hell at of it.. !!! Why wouldn't you...!!!!

[Livia]

Q: What is so ironic about Atheists?
A: They’re always talking about God.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Q: What is so ironic about Atheists?
A: They’re always talking about God.

Jealous attention seekers

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Q: What is so ironic about Atheists?
A: They’re always talking about God.

which one?