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01-02-2014, 11:25 PM | #1 | ||
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JIM said he'd win and he did. Usually a hm arrogantly predicting their triumph or acting up to a win ends in an annoyed public handing them a defeat or eviction eg bb10 Freddie, Charlie, bb9 Kathreya and recently bb14 Wolfy. Why didn't Jim's boast result in a backlash?
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02-02-2014, 08:43 AM | #2 | ||
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02-02-2014, 08:48 AM | #3 | |||
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02-02-2014, 08:55 AM | #4 | ||
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In all truth Jim didn't say he would win, in fact he likely didn't expect to on first going in.
What he said was in the diary room,after the public had him topping the votes in near all the eviction battles, was that if they kept him in again on that occasion then he would win it for them, adding afterwards he would then win it. Not bragging, not disrespect for the viewers voting just a whole new confidence of seeing that he was supported very strongly by the public and now realised he could likely win it and would do so for them if they kept him in again and of course he is going to win for himself too. Any housemate would. There was no backlash from the public because there was no reason for any backlash as to what he said and the public saw and knew that too. |
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02-02-2014, 08:56 AM | #5 | |||
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02-02-2014, 09:05 AM | #6 | ||
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I have no idea, but judging by the outcome I would have assumed quite a few. If it is mainly girls/women voting for him - more fool them. They clearly have too much time on their hands and not enough sense to have the right to vote. Unfortunately, idiots come in all shapes, sizes and sexies.
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02-02-2014, 10:12 AM | #7 | |||
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02-02-2014, 11:06 AM | #8 | ||
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Remind me please. I would imagine they were said in response to his constant sexist digs - hardly surprising really. A bit of tit for tat going on.
Are you trying to say that Jim isn't sexist, seriously. And if you admit he is - why do you not take it seriously - it is a serious subject, just like racism. Unfortunately people not taking it seriously allows men like Jim to get away with it - which ultimately affects all women in a negative way. I cannot understand how some women cannot see that. |
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02-02-2014, 11:10 AM | #9 | |||
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'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages' Last edited by Cherie; 02-02-2014 at 11:11 AM. |
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02-02-2014, 11:13 AM | #10 | |||
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I agree with Cherie. Luisa was quick to call jim sexist (which he is) but also felt that men should speak (or not speak) to women in a certain way. Equality goes both ways and if you are going to complain about one you really lose the right to complain about the other.
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02-02-2014, 11:18 AM | #11 | |||
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Jim didn't exactly brag & he won because he was the most deserving winner & thankfully most of the voting public saw it that way too...
Yes Luisa calls herself a feminist, but has very mixed up views as to what is equality, seems she wants to have her cake AND eat it...
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02-02-2014, 11:33 AM | #12 | ||
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It also just proves my point that racism is taken more serioulsy than sexism by people that watch the show and by the makers of the show - which itself is a double standard and should not be condoned. |
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02-02-2014, 11:49 AM | #13 | |||
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Sexism is a bit more difficult to tackle especially when some women blow hot and cold about how it is they want men to act towards them. I agree it should carry the same warnings but we are nowhere near to that happening.
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02-02-2014, 12:13 PM | #14 | ||
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Women voting for sexist male contestants to win the show - is just one big step backwards. Last edited by sassysocks; 02-02-2014 at 12:14 PM. |
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02-02-2014, 12:31 PM | #15 | ||
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As far as I remember, Luisa was commenting on Jim's nasty campaign criticising her appearance. No man should fight a battle by bringing a woman's appearance into the argument, so I agree with her. (Neither is it acceptable in the opposite direction, of course, but it seldom happens, because men are seldom judged solely by their looks). All Luisa's comments about Jim were appropriate, because they were accurate comments about his behaviour. Liz, in her appraisal of Jim, criticised Jim for mainly showing an interest in the younger, attractive women, thus implying that he sees women as sex objects when they are young, and dismisses them when they are older. Liz wasn't asked for an example of what she meant when she said that no man should speak to a woman "like that". It's possible that Liz was referring to the comments which Jim was making beforehand, which eventually resulted in Linda losing her rag. Sam said Jim made nasty comments when the cameras weren't on; Rylan said that the rows we saw were preceded by numerous comments Jim would make to wind Linda up, but they weren't shown because it didn't make exciting viewing. In the sitting on the fence task, Sam and Ollie both acknowledged that Jim triggered most of the arguments by constantly winding Linda up. We don't therefore know what Liz thought was a problem. Liz wouldn't realise we hadn't seen the build-up to each incident, hence she didn't elucidate. I personally think there's nothing wrong with telling a woman to "grow up or "f... off", but it's disrespectful for a man to make constant reference to a woman's body parts ("knockers", "tits" etc.), unless in the context of reciprocal banter, so in that respect I agree that there are some things a man shouldn't say to a women. It's demeaning, humiliating and offensive. Last edited by Seraphim; 02-02-2014 at 12:39 PM. |
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02-02-2014, 12:44 PM | #16 | ||
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02-02-2014, 12:52 PM | #17 | ||
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The fact that a callous, selfish philanderer, who bragged and joked about wife-beating, was given an OBE makes me utterly sick to the stomach. Last edited by Seraphim; 02-02-2014 at 12:59 PM. |
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02-02-2014, 01:20 PM | #18 | ||
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I guess that despite everything we still live in very misygonistic times as is evident by him being awarded an OBE and winning BB. What really concerns me is that much of this misygony is coming not from men, but from women. I can only summize that some women are not only jealous of good-looking women, but strong ones too. Jealousy is an ugly emotion and, it seems, will only serve to delay further equality between the sexes. Women are often their own worst enemies. |
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02-02-2014, 01:21 PM | #19 | ||
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Maybe it could be for all his other qualities. |
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02-02-2014, 03:50 PM | #20 | |||
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02-02-2014, 03:56 PM | #21 | |||
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I get so pissed off when people accuse women of being jealous of other women when try don't vote the way they think they should. Just because a woman is strong or beautiful doesn't make them a good person. I'm not talking about Luisa here, I actually wanted her to win as she was a fantastic housemate. She is not someone I would want as a friend she seems to self involved to me but I don't think she didn't win because people are jealous of her. That argument is as old and tired as Jims jokes. Jim won in a fair public vote.
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02-02-2014, 04:19 PM | #22 | ||
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cant you see the hypocrisy in your views ? |
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02-02-2014, 05:37 PM | #23 | |||
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Davidson#cite_ref-5
Television section, 2nd paragraph. Social attitudes were not as accepting in the 70's as many seem to think. That was why his stand up was dropped on TV and he became a TV presenter.
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02-02-2014, 05:42 PM | #24 | |||
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Jim won because the the vast majority of the women that voted him to win Did Not agree with you're skewered view of what you were watching!...Simples
WELL DONE THAT MAN! ...a real pride to his gender , and proof that a genuine person can overcome years such bad political-correctness press!
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02-02-2014, 06:13 PM | #25 | ||
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i am just doing a poem on this guy sree - it will be done shortly. this is not a BB poem but one on a news story's. its amazing how much big brother is part of my life. everything i relate to is BB. |
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