[Raph]

Looking at the odds and seeing that Mark is a dead cert to go this Friday, I can't help but think there's a trend here with the flamboyant Channel 5 males. Namely, Tom (BB12), Scott (BB13) and Mark (BB15). None in BB14 of course since it was such a killer series. But seriously, why is it that the flamboyant gay guy is evicted in the week before the final every time? And the storyline is usually quite similar too. People want them out for a while but they never end up facing the public vote. I honestly think it goes to show that the public are tired of this type of character. I just wish Channel 5 would grow some balls and stop stereotyping gay people into one small, small bracket.

[Samm]

None in BB14 of course since it was such a killer series

bit homophobic there saying BB14 was good because of no flamoboyant gays

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

bit homophobic there saying BB14 was good because of no flamoboyant gays

I dont think for a minute he meant that

[Denver]

Wasnt the twins a bit flamboyant/camp

[Braden]

I don't think any of them had the storyline you've suggested at all tbh.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

bit homophobic there saying BB14 was good because of no flamoboyant gays

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I dont think for a minute he meant that

Yeah, yeah I just meant it was nice to see the stereotype put to rest for a series. Even though Jack was a little camp. he wasn't over-the-top like Mark or Tom. Didn't mean it in a homophobic way clearly

[VanessaFeltz.]

Im gay myself but i generally hate gay characters on big brother. Specially guys like mark because people like mark is over the top, over-reacts everything.

[Creggle]

Don't respect people who make their sexuality into their personality, makes them look like they have no individuality or idenity.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by MelihV

Im gay myself but i generally hate gay characters on big brother. Specially guys like mark because people like mark is over the top, over-reacts everything.

I agree, they make the public believe that all gays behave the same which just furthers stereotyping.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Raph

Yeah, yeah I just meant it was nice to see the stereotype put to rest for a series. Even though Jack was a little camp. he wasn't over-the-top like Mark or Tom. Didn't mean it in a homophobic way clearly

Dan was gay and camp and he was evicted just a few weeks before the final. People seem to forget he was camp just because he had big muscles and was a police officer etc

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Dan was gay and camp and he was evicted just a few weeks before the final. People seem to forget he was camp just because he had big muscles and was a police officer etc

Oh yeah you're right! But I feel like Dan did have more to his personality such as his argumentative streak and his need to solve everything. Not to mention the fact that he had a son too, which actually did the opposite, I feel, and didn't reinforce stereotypes

[Macie Lightfoot]

Another trend with flamboyant gay guys: you automatically hating all of them.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Another trend with flamboyant gay guys: you automatically hating all of them.

I liked both Scott and Tom actually.

[VanessaFeltz.]

I liked scott in bb can

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Raph

I liked both Scott and Tom actually.

Shocking, considering that they're not really that flamboyant (I would describe them as plenty of other traits before referring to either of them as flamboyant.) You've had it out for Mark since the start and then BBCan gets someone like Kenny, who is whiny and lacks any sort of charisma, and he becomes an instant favorite of yours because he "isn't flamboyant" (read: literally acted straight because apparently homosexuality is a handicap on a show that's iconic HM is a flamboyant gay guy who goes by Gary Glitter.)

I agree that the casting for gay guys on C5 has become basic. Gay guys are token mascots on C5, whereas on C4 there have been gay HMs whose sexuality (not sexual orientation) is an important aspect of their personality. Mark firmly fits into the same category as Tom and Scott did (and I do think he intended to play that role), but he's proven himself otherwise. It's pretty much an unwritten rule that the token gay HM doesn't get into a showmance, but then the Christopher thing happened and it was actually refreshing at first. So many straight dudes go into BB feeling as if they're entitled to a showmance (Luke Scrase, Ziggy, Liam, John James, any cast of BBUS)because that's what the experience is supposed to be like, apparently. Whether it works out or not, they'll have a clueless chick latched to them to help pass the time. That same sense of entitlement doesn't happen at all with gay people on reality TV and there's no way Mark expected to have any sort of romantic feelings for someone in there so it was at least refreshing at first (and almost certainly caused his demise.)

However, once the Mark/Christopher thing developed further it became pretty awful. They're extremely static and every episode is more or less the same thing and I'm sick of it. However, I can't deny how refreshing it was at the start. I got way too off topic but I'll bring it all together with this - yes, gay HMs have been especially pigeonholed into desexualized filler and it sucks. However, using flamboyance as a sliding scale to judge every gay contestant isn't any better.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Wasnt the twins a bit flamboyant/camp

Yeah and so was Dan.

His floppy wrists were everywhere.

[Samm]

Dan

[Lostie!]

If stereotypical gay guys in BB annoy you, stay away from BB Canada Season 1:



EDIT: Oh, you already watch BBCan. Anyway, I actually liked Gary.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

If stereotypical gay guys in BB annoy you, stay away from BB Canada Season 1:

I am just going to say.. GARY IS THE MOST ANNOYING HUMAN BEING IN THE WORLD.

[Achilles]

Chris is bisexual and Winston's in the closet. They aren't that "flamboyant"

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Chris is bisexual and Winston's in the closet. They aren't that "flamboyant"

Winston is not gay at all. he clearly liked tamara

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

If stereotypical gay guys in BB annoy you, stay away from BB Canada Season 1:



EDIT: Oh, you already watch BBCan. Anyway, I actually liked Gary.

But season 2 had Kenny and he's such an inspiration to gay people across the world that he his his sexuality!!!!!111

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

But season 2 had Kenny and he's such an inspiration to gay people across the world that he his his sexuality!!!!!111

[Black Dagger]

Mark >>> repulsive, disgusting cretins who play it straight in order to further themselves in a competition because they feel like liking cock jeopardises their gameplay.

[Black Dagger]

And for years BB has had the stigma of casting gay males who are camp and flamboyant, long before C5 has had it.