[Pete.]

I am baffled tbh

[joe199998293]

Because she's fab.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joe199998293

Because she's fab.

[VanessaFeltz.]

she was a big character since day 1. ashleigh started to come out at week 4. It would be so unfair for the people who are doing something since day 1 if she wins.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by MelihV

she was a big character since day 1. ashleigh started to come out at week 4. It would be so unfair for the people who are doing something since day 1 if she wins.

It's not just Helen vs. Ashleigh, there are four other people in the running!

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

It's not just Helen vs. Ashleigh, there are four other people in the running!

I dont think so lol

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

It's not just Helen vs. Ashleigh, there are four other people in the running!

pav and ash just no. I would like chris and christopher win but they have no chance sadly

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

It's not just Helen vs. Ashleigh, there are four other people in the running!

Yeah this has annoyed me a lot over the last few weeks. As soon as you say anything about Helen it's like "yeah but you Ashleigh fans...!"

I'm not an Ashleigh fan... I wouldn'tt say I'm an "anyone" fan, but in order of who I actually like (not necessarily who I'd like to win... just who I think are half decent people)

Ash
Christopher
Chris
Ashleigh
Helen
Pav

So... my top three doesn't include either of them... and Helen's buddy Ash comes above Ashleigh's buddies Chris and Christopher, while Ashleigh comes slightly above Helen.

People just assume it's a decision between the two girls and you're either on one "side" or the other. They're both bitches. I've said in other threads: they have EXACTLY the same personality type, the only real differences between them is that Ashleigh is more intelligent and Helen has less emotional control.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Oh petemitch...don't encourage them.
It's simple...Helen says it how it is..
Helen has been on a journey...
Helen doesn't bitch like Ashleigh...
Helens loyal..


There are so many threads pro Helen it's just boring. I think people are either trying to convince themselves and convince us that she's a great person and deserves to win...
The woman is nasty...inside and out and I haven't let the wool be pulled over my eyes...

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah this has annoyed me a lot over the last few weeks. As soon as you say anything about Helen it's like "yeah but you Ashleigh fans...!"

Exactly! I don't like Helen, and have kinda gone off Ashleigh. I don't get why everything has become Helen vs. Ashleigh, the majority of threads are about them. I really felt the trial task was just a way to garner stronger support from hardcore Helen and Ashleigh fans to gain more votes for them both, and it seems to have worked. I almost feel like I have to make it clear that I'm not a Helen fan when I criticise Ashleigh and vice versa to show I'm not just biased!

And I agree with you, at the moment my top three is looking like Christopher, Chris and Ash, with Ashleigh wavering in and out maybe.

[jet]

They want Helen to win because of dislike for Ashleigh mostly.
I've seen some whose favs have been Christopher or Chris for ages change to supporting Helen because they don't like their growing friendship and support of Ashleigh.
Long time favs dropped like a hot potato. Dead giveaway, that.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by MelihV

she was a big character since day 1. ashleigh started to come out at week 4. It would be so unfair for the people who are doing something since day 1 if she wins.

I find it odd how you list your favourite as Jale yet are supporting Helen, who was so horrible to her in the early weeks...

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by MB&U

I find it odd how you list your favourite as Jale yet are supporting Helen, who was so horrible to her in the early weeks...

Yeah she did, she made lots of mistakes. She was a vile bitch, i get it. However in the end she was honest and loyal to her friends %95 of the time and she did stand up and talk. Where was Ashleigh in first 3 weeks? She collected all the information silently then she tried to get one of the least favourite players at that time out. She was nobody at that time and why she suddenly started to fight against helen? Because she was hated.

[Pete.]

Who cares that Ashleigh did nothing for a bit, she has been really entertaining in the past 7 weeks which is what matters. Was Helen ever appointed PHM ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Who cares that Ashleigh did nothing for a bit, she has been really entertaining in the past 7 weeks which is what matters. Was Helen ever appointed PHM ?

Please tell us how Ashleigh has been entertaining ? Im baffled

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MelihV

she was a big character since day 1. ashleigh started to come out at week 4. It would be so unfair for the people who are doing something since day 1 if she wins.

You could argue that she had more freedom to be a "big character" all the way through because she had a free pass to the final and never had to worry about how she was treating her fellow HMs for fear of being nominated

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You could argue that she had more freedom to be a "big character" all the way through because she had a free pass to the final and never had to worry about how she was treating her fellow HMs for fear of being nominated

I dont think it would change something if she didnt have a pass to finals.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MelihV

I dont think it would change something if she didnt have a pass to finals.

We have no way of knowing I guess but it's quite possible imo

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We have no way of knowing I guess but it's quite possible imo

Ironically I think without the pass she would've been like Ashleigh where she was quiet for the first couple of weeks before her nasty side came out.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You could argue that she had more freedom to be a "big character" all the way through because she had a free pass to the final and never had to worry about how she was treating her fellow HMs for fear of being nominated

...and then in the last week she cries and sobs..why me? Why me?...it's not fair...poor me

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...and then in the last week she cries and sobs..why me? Why me?...it's not fair...poor me

Lol, when you support Ashleigh and her cronies you can't really attack anybody else for playing the “poor me” act.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Lol, when you support Ashleigh and her cronies you can't really attack anybody else for playing the “poor me” act.

I really don't believe Ashleigh has ever demonstrated any sort of poor me behaviour. The only people that have are Danielle in the first week when she wasn't even attached to Ashleigh, Pav, and Helen whenever she gets mad that people don't like her.

[user104658]

Because I put £10 on her at 32/1 so if she wins I get £330...

In all seriousness, I don't think she'll win, but my thinking was as follows:

Pav won't win. I'd be OK with Ashleigh, Chris, Christopher or Ash winning. I'd have been a bit depressed on Friday if Helen had won. So I put £10 o her to cancel that out...

But now it's like... Pav won't win, I'm still OK with that other 4, but... c'mon... 32/1! Helen to win!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because I put £10 on her at 32/1 so if she wins I get £330...

In all seriousness, I don't think she'll win, but my thinking was as follows:

Pav won't win. I'd be OK with Ashleigh, Chris, Christopher or Ash winning. I'd have been a bit depressed on Friday if Helen had won. So I put £10 o her to cancel that out...

But now it's like... Pav won't win, I'm still OK with that other 4, but... c'mon... 32/1! Helen to win!!

I can see you're a glass half full kind of a guy

[chuff me dizzy]

Where do you start ?

she's honest

she knows and accepts her faults

she's loyal to her mates

if a spades a spade she will call it one

if she's in the wrong she will admit it

just some of the reasons I am voting for Helen to win

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Where do you start ?

she's honest

she knows and accepts her faults

she's loyal to her mates

if a spades a spade she will call it one

if she's in the wrong she will admit it

just some of the reasons I am voting for Helen to win