[Achilles]

Youtube video

A nasty horrible person who has received multiple warnings for bullying and aggressive behaviour.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Youtube video

A nasty horrible person who has received multiple warnings for bullying and aggressive behaviour.

Totally agree with you I would hate to see Helen winning.

[billy123]

Are you incapable of seeing how just as many people see Ashliegh as nasty?

[Lister of Smeg]

Have no clue . How anyone can want such a vile individual to win is beyond me too .

[coffee]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

Totally agree with you I would hate to see Helen winning.

Show at least 5 clips of Ashleigh being just as nasty as Helen because it's not very hard to find 5 of Helen being horrible.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Are you incapable of seeing how just as many people see Ashliegh as nasty?

The ex housemates who dislike Ashleigh are the ones who were part of Helen's nasty gang. The ex housemates who like Ashleigh are the ones who hated Helen's nasty gang.
Ashleigh has been against Helen and her nasty gang throughout the show. Obviously she will be hated for this and she will be insulted and called vile names because she is against Helen. I don't support the nasty gang and their disgusting leader Helen.

[Kazanne]

Helen to win

[rocket]

Why indeed....
People forget too quickly what ...a nasty vile person...she has been for the majority of this series...!!

CHRISTOPHER TO WIN.....

[joeysteele]

Aggressive behaviour doesn't make a bully and in my view Helen is not one.

Anyway bullies more often go about their business in a more subtle way where others don't really see the nastiness,often using mind games in breaking their victims down.

Helen just flies off the handle and rants at people but that is not bullying.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Are you incapable of seeing how just as many people see Ashliegh as nasty?

there's normal nasty, then theres Helen kind of nasty..bb's warnings prove to every viewer just who has been the nastiest.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Aggressive behaviour doesn't make a bully and in my view Hlene is not one.

Anyway bullies more often go about their business in a more subtle way where others don't really see the nastiness,often usinf mond game in breaking their victims down.

Helen just flies off the handle and rants at people but that is not bullying.

This. And honestly the bully argument can be said for yours truly Ashleigh as well. What a nightmare that girl is

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Aggressive behaviour doesn't make a bully and in my view Hlene is not one.

Anyway bullies more often go about their business in a more subtle way where others don't really see the nastiness,often usinf mond game in breaking their victims down.

Helen just flies off the handle and rants at people but that is not bullying.

Why defend a nasty bully? That upload is just one example.

[Pete.]

She can't win - there is too much support for Ashleigh and Christopher and it's only now that the random people who don't want them to win, adopted her as an anti vote

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Raph

This. And honestly the bully argument can be said for yours truly Ashleigh as well. What a nightmare that girl is

Somebody could use a bully argument against Ashleigh, but it would be complete BS argument. Do you watch that upload and laugh or get angry?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Why defend a nasty bully? That upload is just one example.

Are you listening and reading with full respect, because I don't think she is a bully.

She can be really nasty at times, she is loud,she is foul mouthed but that doesn't make her a bully, as with in many series of BB the word bully is misused as to describe someone.

It is in fact an insult to those who have really been bullied.
Many of whom would have likely preferred to have someone yelling the way Helen does,rather than have a real bullying situation, so others could see them and hear them and know what was happening.
People being bullied and those bullying generally are often only found out that it is taking place by accident, since bullies often operate in a cowardly fashion.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Are you listening and reading with full respect, because I don't think she is a bully.

She can be really nasty at times, she is loud,she is foul mouthed but that doesn't make her a bully, as with in many series of BB the word bully is misused as to describe someone.

It is in fact an insult to those who have really been bullied.
Many of whom would have likely preferred to have someone yelling the way Helen does,rather than have a real bullying situation, so others could see them and hear them and know what was happening.
People being bullied and those bullying generally are often only found out that it is taking place by accident, since bullies often operate in a cowardly fashion.

No it is insulting to people who have been bullied when people deny bullying. Not only insulting but disgusting.

[Macie Lightfoot]

"UGHHHHHHHH bullying is such an overused term"

like... that's partly true. HOWEVER, as quick as some people play the bully card or whatever, people here are just as quick to reject any possible of bullying.

[bitontheslide]

Sorry, but I think many are confusing the difference between bullying and being loud and aggressive. There is a big difference. While loud and aggressive behaviour is unpleasant, it is not in the same league as bullying. Helen received an official warning for 1 instance in all these weeks can we have some perspective please

[Achilles]

If I was Christopher in that situation I would feel bullied. If people are incapable of putting themselves in his shoes, they will deny that he is being bullied.

[Marsh.]

A video from Day 8?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

If I was Christopher in that situation I would feel bullied. If people are incapable of putting themselves in his shoes, they will deny that he is being bullied.

Anyone can "feel bullied" when they're intent on making someone out to be the devil incarnate.

[Vanessa]

Ashleigh is hardly Mother Theresa herself.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Sorry, but I think many are confusing the difference between bullying and being loud and aggressive. There is a big difference. While loud and aggressive behaviour is unpleasant, it is not in the same league as bullying. Helen received an official warning for 1 instance in all these weeks can we have some perspective please

I dont think anyone really believes she is a bully it is just being used as a cheap,repetitive and negative way of attacking her
There isnt a lot of ways that Ashleigh can be supported in a positive manner so desperation turns into trying to make other housemates look bad rather than championing their own.
Its a bit sad really.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Sorry, but I think many are confusing the difference between bullying and being loud and aggressive. There is a big difference. While loud and aggressive behaviour is unpleasant, it is not in the same league as bullying. Helen received an official warning for 1 instance in all these weeks can we have some perspective please

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Are you listening and reading with full respect, because I don't think she is a bully.

She can be really nasty at times, she is loud,she is foul mouthed but that doesn't make her a bully, as with in many series of BB the word bully is misused as to describe someone.

It is in fact an insult to those who have really been bullied.
Many of whom would have likely preferred to have someone yelling the way Helen does,rather than have a real bullying situation, so others could see them and hear them and know what was happening.
People being bullied and those bullying generally are often only found out that it is taking place by accident, since bullies often operate in a cowardly fashion.

I agree Joey ,real bullies hide it well,are sly and manipulative,nothing at all like Helen really,she is just a hot head who doesn't think before she says something,real bullies are very calculated,Hmmm ,that actually reminds me of someone