[MTVN]

Chloe and Cami were saying that Perez was manipulating Alicia because he is a manipulative person who will use anything and anyone to get himself more screen time and further his agenda. Nadia turned that into them saying "no one could like Alicia" apart from as a pawn which wasn't their point at all, it was strictly about Perez as the manipulator. Just as when Alicia used the same argument it was strictly about Katie the manipulator. Unfortunately Chloe only expressed this quite late into the argument and Cami had dug herself quite a hole by this point but Nadia's involvement really did not help matters there.

[MTVN]

All agreed then

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

All agreed then

Agreed here

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Chloe and Cami were saying that Perez was manipulating Alicia because he is a manipulative person who will use anything and anyone to get himself more screen time and further his agenda. Nadia turned that into them saying "no one could like Alicia" apart from as a pawn which wasn't their point at all, it was strictly about Perez as the manipulator. Just as when Alicia used the same argument it was strictly about Katie the manipulator. Unfortunately Chloe only expressed this quite late into the argument and Cami had dug herself quite a hole by this point but Nadia's involvement really did not help matters there.

Thank goodness someone else heard that too. She does this often, takes what someone says and translates it into something else. Or in other words, lights the fuse and stands well back. Then she can be seen as the one doing the comforting. What a cow.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Chloe and Cami were saying that Perez was manipulating Alicia because he is a manipulative person who will use anything and anyone to get himself more screen time and further his agenda. Nadia turned that into them saying "no one could like Alicia" apart from as a pawn which wasn't their point at all, it was strictly about Perez as the manipulator. Just as when Alicia used the same argument it was strictly about Katie the manipulator. Unfortunately Chloe only expressed this quite late into the argument and Cami had dug herself quite a hole by this point but Nadia's involvement really did not help matters there.

This pissed me off so much

[Drew.]

Sorry Matthew i'm not havin it, Those witches are giving sly digs far too often. Nadia finally grew a pair and decided to stick up for what was right for once.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Sorry Matthew i'm not havin it, Those witches are giving sly digs far too often. Nadia finally grew a pair and decided to stick up for what was right for once.

I haven't minded Nadia as much recently because she does seem happy to agree or disagree with anyone, like though she defended Alicia here she disagreed with what she said about the divide and she's disagreed with her at other times as well, but even if she didn't realise it I think she made things worse here by misrepresenting what was being said

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I haven't minded Nadia as much recently because she does seem happy to agree or disagree with anyone, like though she defended Alicia here she disagreed with what she said about the divide and she's disagreed with her at other times as well, but even if she didn't realise it I think she made things worse here by misrepresenting what was being said

She probably did fuel it up a bit, but as a fan of Alicia it was nice to see someone finally sticking up for her. It doesn't really take much to start those two girls off anyway really, they are quick to go off on a rant defending themselves & the insults quickly followed, they are like two yapping dogs.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Drew.

She probably did fuel it up a bit, but as a fan of Alicia it was nice to see someone finally sticking up for her. It doesn't really take much to start those two girls off anyway really, they are quick to go off on a rant defending themselves & the insults quickly followed, they are like two yapping dogs.

Alicia should speak for herself, she didn't need Nadia butting her awful opinion in.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Alicia should speak for herself, she didn't need Nadia butting her awful opinion in.

Agreed, because if someone is picking on you and someone has to stick up for you, the victim comes across weak and a easy target.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Alicia should speak for herself, she didn't need Nadia butting her awful opinion in.

Why should she? If shes creating these arguments then yeah but she's having tons of **** thrown her way for no reason really. You can't tell people to man up and stick up for themselves when they're in a situation they didn't start or don't want to be in.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Drew.

She probably did fuel it up a bit, but as a fan of Alicia it was nice to see someone finally sticking up for her. It doesn't really take much to start those two girls off anyway really, they are quick to go off on a rant defending themselves & the insults quickly followed, they are like two yapping dogs.

Agree

[Kizzy]

Agreed, nadia is perez no1 fan she can't stand a word said against the creep! He should be ejected for his lewd behaviour blurgh!

[Amy Jade]

Nadia is an evil manipulative bitch. I have never hated anyone on CBB as much since Denise.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Nadia is an evil manipulative bitch. I have never hated anyone on CBB as much since Denise.

Agreed!

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Nadia is an evil manipulative bitch. I have never hated anyone on CBB as much since Denise.

I'm glad even her friend Ruth thinks she got to stop getting involved in every single argument

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Nadia is an evil manipulative bitch. I have never hated anyone on CBB as much since Denise.

She is the ultimate manipulator. The ultimate shit stirrer. Used to like her but not now.

[abhorson]

All i need to know is the press, GBP, BOTS etc in the vast majority do not think much of Perez. Nadia does.

Which says not much for her judgement.

[armand.kay]

She's does it all the time I don't get how people can't see her for the a manipulative, self righteous, sh** stirrer she is.

[Marsh.]

Well they did say there was no other reason he would talk to Alicia. Which was very insulting.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well they did say there was no other reason he would talk to Alicia. Which was very insulting.

That was insulting to Perez though, saying he doesn't make real friends, he only uses people

Admittedly Cami argued her point pretty stupidly and got too harsh with it, she really needs to control her temper

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by MTVN

That was insulting to Perez though, saying he doesn't make real friends, he only uses people

Admittedly Cami argued her point pretty stupidly and got too harsh with it, she really needs to control her temper

I agree with you that Nadia makes these arguments worse, she gets too involved and keeps going on and on too much at times.

However I didn't think that Nadia was just specifying Perez in her argument against what Cami said. I thought she kept saying that Cami had said "nobody" would talk to or want be friends with Alicia other than to use or manipulate her. That there would be "no other reason" for "somebody" or "anybody" (not sure??) to like Alicia.

She said this repeatedly and Cami kept saying "yeah because it's the truth"

It may have started out over him, but in that particular segment of argument Perez didn't seem to be specified, Cami seemed to be agreeing and admitting that she did in fact say that she thought "nobody" would like Alicia for any other reason.

That's the way I took it up anyways.

[Ammi]

..I agree with PinkPegasus in that I think Nadia tends to be totally counter-productive and completely escalates many situations that I don't think would be anywhere near so bad if she didn't get involved so much...they just seemed to be trying to say that they thought Perez was a 'false friend' to Alicia, not that no one would actually want to be friends with her for herself...and Nadia kept repeating that it was an awful thing to say, but she was the one saying it/the first one to say it, so really could be perceived as the person to be causing Alicia the most upset at the time..I mean if any of us were Alicia, would we want someone banging on...SO PEOPLE THINK THAT THERE ARE NO LIKEABLE QUALITIES ABOUT YOU, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT THEN..which is effectively what she was doing...she really needs to step back and allow others to interpret things for themselves....

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well they did say there was no other reason he would talk to Alicia. Which was very insulting.

True though. He had zero interest in her a few days ago

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

True though. He had zero interest in her a few days ago

Yes, but they insinuated there wasn't anything else he could possibly be interested in from Alicia.