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Delhi bus rapist blames his victim in prison interview

In an interview from jail, Mukesh Singh says women who go out at night have only themselves to blame if they attract the attention of gangs of male molesters



One of the group of Indian men convicted of the notorious Delhi gang rape of 2012 has prompted outrage by claiming that his victim was to blame for her brutal sexual assault and murder.

In an interview from jail, Mukesh Singh said that women who went out at night had only themselves to blame if they attracted the attention of gangs of male molesters. "A girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy," he said.

His victim, Jyoti Singh, 23, was returning from an evening at the cinema with a male friend when the six-strong gang offered them a lift in a mini-bus they were driving. She was raped and frenziedly beaten with iron bars, prompting widespread demonstrations for Indian women to have greater protection from sexual violence.

In an interview for a BBC documentary, Singh also claimed that had Jyoti and her friend not tried to fight back, the gang would not have not have inflicted the savage beating, which led her to die from her injuries two weeks later.

Describing the killing as an "accident", he said: "When being raped, she shouldn't fight back. She should just be silent and allow the rape. Then they'd have dropped her off after 'doing her', and only hit the boy."

The interview, which BBC Four will air on its Storyville programme to coincide with International Womens' Day this Sunday, will be seen by women's rights groups as compelling evidence of the appalling attitudes shown by many Indian men towards women.

While the Indian courts made a harsh example of the gang, passing death sentences that are now otherwise rarely used, campaigners say that otherwise not enough has changed.

Singh, a slum-dweller who was 26 at the time of the attack, was driving the bus when the abduction occurred.

He denied involvement in the attack itself, but his claims were rejected by the court, which said there was strong DNA evidence against him, and that even if he had not taken part, he should have intervened.

But while the judge said that the case had "shocked the collective conscience" of India, Singh appears to show little remorse.

"You can't clap with one hand – it takes two hands," he says in the interview. "A decent girl won't roam around at 9 o'clock at night. A girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy. Boy and girl are not equal. Housework and housekeeping is for girls, not roaming in discos and bars at night doing wrong things, wearing wrong clothes. About 20 per cent of girls are good."

Singh, whose death sentence is currently on appeal, also claims that executing him and the other convicted rapists will endanger future rape victims.

"The death penalty will make things even more dangerous for girls," he says. "Before, they would rape and say, 'Leave her, she won't tell anyone.' Now when they rape, especially the criminal types, they will just kill the girl. Death."



The lawyers who defended the gang in court express similarly extreme views about women who venture out at night. In a previous televised interview, lawyer AP Singh said: "If my daughter or sister engaged in pre-marital activities and disgraced herself and allowed herself to lose face and character by doing such things, I would most certainly take this sort of sister or daughter to my farmhouse, and in front of my entire family, I would put petrol on her and set her alight."

In the BBC documentary, he adds that his stance has not changed: "This is my stand. I still today stand on that reply."

Another defence lawyer who acted in the case, ML Sharma, says: "In our society, we never allow our girls to come out from the house after 6:30 or 7.30 or 8.30 in the evening with any unknown person."

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What a sickening attitude and I can not believe this guys lawyer said this :

The lawyers who defended the gang in court express similarly extreme views about women who venture out at night. In a previous televised interview, lawyer AP Singh said: "If my daughter or sister engaged in pre-marital activities and disgraced herself and allowed herself to lose face and character by doing such things, I would most certainly take this sort of sister or daughter to my farmhouse, and in front of my entire family, I would put petrol on her and set her alight."
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Read the full article from the BBC ...can't post from this phone.I really do feel sick after reading.
One was asked how he could have rape the 5yr old girl and he said with a smile on his face that she was just a beggar..her life was of no value.Their mentality is sickening

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Read the full article from the BBC ...can't post from this phone.I really do feel sick after reading.
One was asked how he could have rape the 5yr old girl and he said with a smile on his face that she was just a beggar..her life was of no value.Their mentality is sickening
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****ing disgusting dinosaur.

If India wants to compete on the international stage, they had to address their medieval attitudes to women and children, especially lower caste women and children.

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This piece of crap needs immediate emasculation followed by short drop at the end of a very tight noose.
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Wow... this mindset is terrifying.
How can they justify it? It's mind boggling.
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i am not easily shocked, but i read this earlier and i was genuinely shocked and disgusted.

I usd to think looking down on other countries cultures was bad or racist.
Now i i don't. The culture in India is REPULSIVE. (i blame the british imperialists)
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Disgusting sexist pig, he needs psychiatric help. It's worrying because we have some attitudes like this in the UK, the same people who would scream at "PC brigade feminists"
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I don't see attitudes like this in the UK, that's a ridiculous comparison to make.
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If India wants to compete on the international stage, they had to address their medieval attitudes to women and children, especially lower caste women and children.

Yes I agree 100%
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Not that ridiculous,

'A third of Britons believe a woman who acts flirtatiously is partially or completely to blame for being raped, according to a new study.
More than a quarter also believe a woman is at least partly responsible for being raped if she wears sexy or revealing clothing, or is drunk, the study found'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ame-raped.html
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Not that ridiculous,

'A third of Britons believe a woman who acts flirtatiously is partially or completely to blame for being raped, according to a new study.
More than a quarter also believe a woman is at least partly responsible for being raped if she wears sexy or revealing clothing, or is drunk, the study found'

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But surely no matter how flirtatiously or provocatively a women acts or dresses she has a right not to be raped as a consequence. and if she is drunk then she cannot give consent so any sexual encounter under those circumstances must also be considered as rape.
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But surely no matter how flirtatiously or provocatively a women acts or dresses she has a right not to be raped as a consequence. and if she is drunk then she cannot give consent so any sexual encounter under those circumstances must also be considered as rape.
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Jesus ****ing Christ I don't think I've ever read such sexist BS as this. I hope the pig dies.
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Disgusting sexist pig, he needs psychiatric help. It's worrying because we have some attitudes like this in the UK, the same people who would scream at "PC brigade feminists"
... or maybe he's just a repulsive bastard? Mental illness is not synonymous with being a cunt.
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****ing disgusting dinosaur.

If India wants to compete on the international stage, they need to address their medieval attitudes to women and children, especially lower caste women and children.
No, India needs to address their attitude towards powerful Heterosexual Men.

they are the minority, and it's everyone else who should be putting them in their place. It's the gays, minorities, women and children that need to change their attitude towards Hetero Men. They need to start shunning the hetero men the way the hetero men in power have been abusing them for so long.

I'm sick of people framing these conversations like we need to change the minds of the MEN in power. No, we need to change the attitudes of the Women and Children and Gays and Disabled and Lower Class so they finally realize that THEY are the majority, and that they can STAND UP against the hetero men that have kept them in slavery and terror for centuries.
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Challenge the establishment?...if we can't do it here then they've got no chance! :/
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No, India needs to address their attitude towards powerful Heterosexual Men.

they are the minority, and it's everyone else who should be putting them in their place. It's the gays, minorities, women and children that need to change their attitude towards Hetero Men. They need to start shunning the hetero men the way the hetero men in power have been abusing them for so long.

I'm sick of people framing these conversations like we need to change the minds of the MEN in power. No, we need to change the attitudes of the Women and Children and Gays and Disabled and Lower Class so they finally realize that THEY are the majority, and that they can STAND UP against the hetero men that have kept them in slavery and terror for centuries.
India does need to change the attitudes of the men in power. Unless you're a high-caste Indian woman, then you're pretty much cheap labour, a baby-making machine and nothing more; the police think so, the whole Indian justice system thinks so. The caste system in India makes the good old British class system look like a commune. It's almost impossible to compare society in India with the West. And the suggestion that women in this country (and the USA) face the same attitudes as Indian women is a few parsecs off the truth.
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yes I am pretty sure Kizzy has the same opinion as you, as do I.
Good to know , but the post was just reeling off statistics not actually putting a personal opinion on record.

Pretty sure we can all agree in this particular thread....
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I had a debate in tutor other day with a group of people my (most of them girls) who claimed that if a girl act like a slut then she should be rapped.
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