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09-03-2015, 11:16 AM | #1 | |||
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so long as the parents know whats being taught debated all morning on Live TV and Live radio Whats your views Last edited by arista; 09-03-2015 at 11:21 AM. |
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09-03-2015, 11:21 AM | #2 | |||
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hhmmm I don't know, just going by my own son who's almost 11, I think he's too childlike yet. They're only learning about sex in school atm. I think dropping sexual assault into the mix just yet is too much, too soon
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09-03-2015, 11:22 AM | #3 | |||
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But you must understand to Learn Rape is Evil it must be taught from 11 years on |
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09-03-2015, 11:25 AM | #4 | |||
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In USA this Evil Man raped a 11 year old boy He got 25years in Jail http://bossip.com/1062176/hide-ya-ki...gan-boy-43081/ http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.2141815 Last edited by arista; 09-03-2015 at 11:27 AM. |
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09-03-2015, 11:29 AM | #5 | |||
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I think all kids need to know how to be safe and how to voice their fears if they're feeling threatened or vulnerable. I don't think they need to know too much about the actual act... they're already made to grow up really fast.
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09-03-2015, 11:31 AM | #6 | |||
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Yes warn them about bad people, what is private (ie no one should touch you here save your mummy or at a doctors etc) and keep the specifics away from them
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09-03-2015, 11:36 AM | #7 | |||
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Not OK..........this is not OK this will never be OK to teach "Rape" to 11 year olds.
I've heard a lot of stupid hare brained ideas in my time, but teaching pre-pubescent child about the dangers of Rape is truly awful. I cannot even imagine the impact of telling a young girl about what may happen to her in graphic detail. Beggars belief anyone would think this is a good idea. Epic Fail...................
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09-03-2015, 11:58 AM | #8 | |||
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Yes I suppose I was looking it it in the wrong way, if you mean "stranger danger" and inappropriate touching kind of a thing, then yes I agree
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09-03-2015, 12:00 PM | #9 | |||
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No its not like that its telling them its Wrong , Illegal etc Last edited by arista; 09-03-2015 at 12:09 PM. |
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09-03-2015, 12:12 PM | #10 | |||
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09-03-2015, 12:36 PM | #11 | |||
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Loose WomenHD are going to debate the 11 year old Rape teaching
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09-03-2015, 12:45 PM | #12 | |||
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09-03-2015, 01:05 PM | #13 | |||
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Debated now Live on LooseWomenHD
ITV1HD STVHD ITV1 Ruth is For it Rod Stewarts wife is on the fence Also Bruno Mars track on the radio had Sex in it - the lady on the end said Last edited by arista; 09-03-2015 at 01:11 PM. |
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09-03-2015, 01:12 PM | #14 | |||
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I remember I was sick at school when we lived in America and the school couldn't contact my mum or dad and the second option to come and collect me was our female neighbor. But she was at work and when the school called her home, her husband came and picked me up. I didn't really mind, I was just happy to not be at school. Anyway so he took my back to his house and lets me watch the TV on the couch. My mum picks me up like 20 mins later or so and as soon as we're alone, she's like 'Did he touch you anywhere? Did he watch you get changed?' etc etc etc and I had literally no idea why she was asking me all this. He didn't do anything and stayed away from me the whole time. Anyway, a few years later when we live in the UK, we find out that this man has been arrested and sent to jail for doing something 'indecent' to his own daughter. I'm glad my mum made her judgements and could tell that there was something strange about him. And I think she was right to ask me if anything happened. I think if I had known what 'could' have happened, I'd have not gone outside the house every again.
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09-03-2015, 01:32 PM | #15 | ||
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Yes, they should definitely be given age appropriate information and advice. I'm sure schools would only touch lightly on the topic for children so young but they really need it. I know primary and early secondary school children are extremely savvy but there are many exceptions, I didn't know anything about this when I was 11, I thought children were only abused by men in white vans who offer you sweets, but statistics show that the abuser us highly likely to be someone the child knows personally. It's very important to keep them informed.
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09-03-2015, 01:48 PM | #16 | |||
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I'd say it was a good thing, at 11 kids are at high school with lots of older ones so they're never going to be 'sheltered' like they are at home or at primary. They might have to go to high school alone and come home alone, parents just cam't be with them 24/7 so it's best they are fully aware of any situations they could encounter... It's a sad fact that this is one.
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09-03-2015, 01:49 PM | #17 | |||
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Agree......we should teach them about Stranger Danger and inappropriate touching. But don't we do that already.
No need to explain "Rape" to an 11 year old is all its graphic gory detail. That would itself be a form of rape... raping the young girls innocence away. Pretty tenuous analogy I know but we have no right to thrust an 11 year old mind into full on sexual deviancy.
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09-03-2015, 02:07 PM | #18 | |||
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09-03-2015, 02:12 PM | #19 | |||
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09-03-2015, 02:39 PM | #20 | |||
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I have taught my children from a young age about inappropriate touching, and my daughter and I have discussed and watch documentaries about women all over the world faced with forced marriage and rape. I have never made it graphic or gory. There is a common sense way to present the topic and to discuss it. Since children seem to be inundated with media sexualization and we are being told teens are becoming sexually active at the age of 12 or earlier... why not let them know that sex at that age is inappropriate, that no one should make you feel like it is ok to have sex so young, and that they have the power to say no or to stop it from happening?
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09-03-2015, 02:53 PM | #22 | |||
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Rape is dark yes, but it also happens to children through manipulation because they don't know it is dark. We don't need to scare them, we need to give them a voice and the power to say no to it.
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09-03-2015, 04:37 PM | #23 | |||
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Perhaps it would go down better if it was taught as sexual assault rather than rape at this age.
Teach the children that touching or being touched is not only inappropriate but not their faults if it is someone else doing the touching. Children can know it doesn't feel right, but don't always know how to cope with it. Especially if if is someone they know or family. If these lessons give them the confidence to tell somebody about it instead of feeling guilty and frightened then I am all for it. |
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09-03-2015, 05:27 PM | #24 | |||
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Wouldn't that just be more confusing... if a child was attacked and they didn't know it was 'rape' then how could they explain what had happened to them...They wouldn't have a clue how, what or why.
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09-03-2015, 05:33 PM | #25 | ||
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Some kids at 11 are developmentally ready to learn about things like this - others won't be ready. Either just won't understand, or will be scared by it. So... the only answer is to keep it out of schools and allow parents to decide what their children are ready to learn about. I don't believe in "age appropriate" as a number... all 5 year olds, 11 year olds, 15 year olds are at different stages. Of course, that's a flaw with the school system all-round.
They could teach about assault in general though - that people hurting you, or getting in your personal space when you don't want them to, in ANY context is "not OK" and you can tell them to back off, and if someone hurts you in any way then you should always tell someone that you trust. That pretty much covers it without even having to mention sexual assault or rape at all. It's an assault, and if you teach that ANY assault is wrong, then that should be enough. |
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