[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Erm, this is quite obvious to me. She wants scotland independant, what prompted the referendum this time? Tories being in...

could be

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Feck me :

Ed Balls says its true


Whats going on Joey?

It is clear what is going on and I don't approve one bit.

It would suit the Conservative press to gave this confusion as they are then given a 2 edged sword, if she had said it, they could argue for their man,David Cameron,which would be almost seen,althugh it wouldn't be,a bit of a boost for him.

If she says it is wrong, and it couldn't be proven either way, then they could use that to expand even more on a fictitious load of nonsense as to what a Labour led govt; supported by the SNP could likely do.

It is a divide and conquor moment in the now very sick way this paper is conducting itself in thsi election campign.
The decent and right thing to have done in any instance, should have been for this paper to 'ask' Nicolal Sturgeon herself 'if' the quote was right,before printing it.

She has denied ever saying it and I would take that as the only gospel on this one, as Nicola Sturgeon ever thinking this PM should be PM,( after his farcical peformance in the referendum debate and issues following),is for me something from cloud cuckoo land.
Of course this possibly will suit Labour too since if Nicola Sturgeon could be seen as having any liking for the Conservatives,then labour could win votes back from the SNP possibly.

The paper has put it out there, right or wrong, but it stinks to high heaven as to how they are going on,so deperate are they to help a loser,who will likely lose again in May as to securing an overall majority,namely David Cameron.

[Kizzy]

It's all a bit of a perfect storm, it rocks Labours faith in the SNP as potential partners, it creates confusion for the Scots in their national party and it strengthens the conservatives position...
Well done Murdock you may well have pulled it off.

[JoshBB]

She and the french ambassador have both said that she never said that. Based off of what she said, you know that it is not something she would say. Only recently she said "If Labour chooses not to work with us then they are missing out on a chance to lock the tories out".

[Kizzy]

I know, but then again the lib dems and the tories vowed never to work together, and here we are...
I would like her to release a press statement c'mon nikki!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by James

The Ambassador's reception.

Youtube video

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I know, but then again the lib dems and the tories vowed never to work together, and here we are...
I would like her to release a press statement c'mon nikki!

This would be the most logical action - a press statement.

But the newspaper should also be made to produce their evidence for their allegation.

[Kizzy]

'The Scottish first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, has called for an urgent investigation over a leaked government memo that alleges she would like to see the Conservatives win the general election.

The SNP leader called on the cabinet secretary, Sir Jeremy Heywood, to find out how the Daily Telegraph obtained the Foreign Office memo in which, the paper claims, Sturgeon told the French ambassador in February that she hoped for a Tory win.

Sturgeon said the memo was without foundation. Speaking at an anti-Trident demonstration in Glasgow, she added: “The bigger question, and one I am raising today with the head of the civil service, Sir Jeremy Heywood, is who wrote this memo, as the Foreign Office are now appearing to deny all knowledge of it.'

Dave is very quiet, he's behind this as those words in this 'leak' sound eerily similar to things he's said of late.


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-david-cameron

[Nedusa]

She wants the Scottish voters to think she will defo form a coalition with Labour to keep the Tories out, but I think she secretly loathes labour and hates Ed Miliband .

Be interesting to see who she will actually form a coalition with.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

She wants the Scottish voters to think she will defo form a coalition with Labour to keep the Tories out, but I think she secretly loathes labour and hates Ed Miliband .

Be interesting to see who she will actually form a coalition with.

Me and Nige don't want her.

[Kizzy]

Not many want nige....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32177315

[LeatherTrumpet]

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

She wants the Scottish voters to think she will defo form a coalition with Labour to keep the Tories out, but I think she secretly loathes labour and hates Ed Miliband .

Be interesting to see who she will actually form a coalition with.

I would literally bet everything I own that the SNP would never support a Tory government. If you genuinely believe they would, then I can only assume you don't fully grasp the depth of how hated the Tories are North of the border. The SNP supporting the Tories would literally destroy the party permanently.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's all a bit of a perfect storm, it rocks Labours faith in the SNP as potential partners, it creates confusion for the Scots in their national party and it strengthens the conservatives position...
Well done Murdock you may well have pulled it off.

Neh. Scots these days - and especially SNP supporters - have learned to be skeptical of the media and political rhetoric, posturing and games. They could print that she's a baby murdering Satan worshipper complete with pictures and it would be met with a resoundingly sarcastic "Aye, awrite."

Very much doubt this will even rattle the polling numbers.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

She wants the Scottish voters to think she will defo form a coalition with Labour to keep the Tories out, but I think she secretly loathes labour and hates Ed Miliband .

Be interesting to see who she will actually form a coalition with.

What tripe

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I would literally bet everything I own that the SNP would never support a Tory government. If you genuinely believe they would, then I can only assume you don't fully grasp the depth of how hated the Tories are North of the border. The SNP supporting the Tories would literally destroy the party permanently.

I totally agree, well said Toy Soldier, as you point out, it would be just about political suicide for the hierarchy of the SNP to now support the Conservatives in any way at all.

While it wasn't always the case ,through the 70s,it certainly is now.

No wonder Nicola Sturgeon is furious at this and I hope the inquiry into where it came from, who from and how it got to the Conservative supporting Daily Telegraph reveals exactly the people and sources involved in this.

[Kizzy]

'Scottish National party leader Nicola Sturgeon has offered to help make Ed Miliband the next prime minister even if Labour wins fewer seats than the Tories on 7 May. Her appeal comes as she angrily rejects claims that she thinks he is not up to the job.

Writing in the Observer – as a furious row erupted over disparaging private remarks she allegedly made about the Labour leader – Sturgeon challenges Miliband to lead Labour into an anti-austerity alliance with the SNP whichever party is the largest in the House of Commons on 8 May.'

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...al-to-miliband

[Kizzy]

'David Cameron, campaigning in Abingdon, said: "What's Nicola Sturgeon told us today? Well she's told us - she's being anointed as this great genius - she's told us something that I said about four years ago, which is Ed Miliband is not up to the job of being prime minister. I think we knew that already.'

What on earth is Cameron on about here?... :/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32177315

[MTVN]

**** off Sturgeon, we can only hope that this is a killer blow for the SNP

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by MTVN

**** off Sturgeon, we can only hope that this is a killer blow for the SNP

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I would literally bet everything I own that the SNP would never support a Tory government. If you genuinely believe they would, then I can only assume you don't fully grasp the depth of how hated the Tories are North of the border. The SNP supporting the Tories would literally destroy the party permanently.

I'm sorry but I think you misread my post, I was brought up in Scotland and can fully appreciate how hated the Tories are North of the border.

But I still think the SNP will act to form a coalition that gives the SNP the best chance to obtain what it really wants ie independence .

It will look at political strategies that can work towards that goal and it will get into bed with whatever main party it feels will provide the least resistance to the SNP achieving this end result.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'David Cameron, campaigning in Abingdon, said: "What's Nicola Sturgeon told us today? Well she's told us - she's being anointed as this great genius - she's told us something that I said about four years ago, which is Ed Miliband is not up to the job of being prime minister. I think we knew that already.'

What on earth is Cameron on about here?... :/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32177315

He looked pathetic with this yesterday,he should be more concerned as to whether this statement had in fact any truth in it in the first place,and in the 2nd place,maybe he should wait before jumping onto the statement, just in case it turns out to have come from a person or persons connected with hoping to get 'him' elected.

Also, the Telegraph should be made to inform where and how and from who they got it.
If they cannot identify any source or individual, then in the light of Nicola's very firm and solid denial, backed up by those she was talking to as well, then the Telegraph should be made print a massive apology on is front page for printing unsubstantiated lies during a full election campaign and thereby trying to interfere with due democratic process.

[Nedusa]

Makes me laugh that we are so bereft of politicians that we need to import some of our leaders from Australia .

Odd to hear Natalie Bennett campaign for the UK Green Party with a broad Sydney accent.

Still it was a debate full of accents really

Welsh, Scottish , Australian and four old boy network Etonian/Harrovian imitations .

[MTVN]

The former Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael has admitted that he was behind a leak to the media of a controversial memo which suggested Scotland's first minister wanted David Cameron to remain as prime minister.

BBC political correspondent Tim Reid says Mr Carmichael gave permission for his former special adviser to disclose the confidential memo to the Daily Telegraph during the general election campaign.

Mr Carmichael says it was an "error of judgement" and if he'd still been a cabinet minister today he would have resigned. He's written to Nicola Sturgeon to apologise - describing it as a "breach of protocol".

There's been an inquiry in to the leak, which concluded that Mr Carmichael "could and should have stopped the sharing of the memo".

The document concerned was written by a civil servant in the Scotland Office and suggested that Nicola Sturgeon had told the French Ambassador that she would prefer David Cameron to remain as Prime Minister and that Ed Miliband wasn't prime minister material.

Mr Carmichael has admitted that he should not have let Mr Roddin leak the memo and accepts "full responsibility for the publication".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-32835714

Oops

[Kizzy]

It was contrived to have maximum effect and it worked didn't it?