[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Gove is by far the biggest blow to both the PM and the In campaign, I was also slightly surprised about Patel. IDS is still quite influential within the party but not beyond. The other three are pretty uninspiring politicians and won't make much impact either way.

Think Boris will eventually declare for In tomorrow evening

I think Boris is being held back as some ace card to play at a strategic time in the campaign which is surprising as I think he is a complete buffoon. I think his own advisers will advise him to see which way its going and then declare so as not to damage his future leadership prospects

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Gove is by far the biggest blow to both the PM and the In campaign, I was also slightly surprised about Patel. IDS is still quite influential within the party but not beyond. The other three are pretty uninspiring politicians and won't make much impact either way.

Think Boris will eventually declare for In tomorrow evening

Yes on Mondays
Daily Telegraph Front Page

[arista]

The PM and Farage are Live on BBC1HD and BBC1 on Marr. 9AM today

The SNP Lady who says if the UK Votes to Leave
she wants Referendum for Scotland , again. Is also on a Live link
how nice

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

The PM and Farage are Live on BBC1HD and BBC1 on Marr. 9AM today

The SNP Lady who says if the UK Votes to Leave
she wants Referendum for Scotland , again. Is also on a Live link
how nice

The SNP making it all about independence as usual, and ignoring the Scottish "0ut" voters

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The SNP making it all about independence as usual, and ignoring the Scottish "0ut" voters

Sturgeon doesn't think there are any because Scotland is so forward thinking and progressive compared to backward little England

[MTVN]

PM put the case pretty well on Marr imo. Farage, well he's just repeating the same arguments that he's been making for the last ten years, Gove articulated the Leave voice much better in his statement yesterday imo.

Looks like I was wrong about Boris anyway, expected to back Brexit

[Kizzy]

If we stay in can we send this 6 off to that island inhabited by snakes... seems fitting

[bitontheslide]

The SNP are assuming that all of Scotland want to be in Europe and England don't. That's a big assumption at this stage. It does add a secondary will they won't they element to it all that will keep the interest going until June.

[arista]

On Marr
Farage should have been with Cameron
than Farage would Win,


The PM is doing Scare You tactics

[joeysteele]

Boris Johnson for me is losing respect every day for his dilly dallying on this,anyway I have little respect for him anyway, he said he would not seek being an MP until his terms of being Mayor were all completed.
So much for his word then..

All this for me now is petty of him, he is really likely only assessing the best chance to succeed Cameron,maybe even stick the knife in as to that too if there is an exit vote which Boris was likely part of.
Maybe not as much for him about the EU as his personal ambitions to lead the party and be PM.

Cameron was to be fair really good on Marr and for me and I been undecided,he would have likely swayed me with what he said.

[arista]

5PM Boris gives SkyNewsHD a Statement

Meanwhile the BBCNewsHD said just now
"the BBC believes Boris is to Vote Out of Europe"

[MTVN]

I don't think Boris is even passionate about leaving the EU, he's just calculating the best move for his career and his own profile. He knows now that if we do vote to leave then he will most likely be the next Tory leader and with it the next Prime Minister

[arista]

Boris is live now

sounds like he in the middle

But he Has now said he is part of Vote Leave.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't think Boris is even passionate about leaving the EU, he's just calculating the best move for his career and his own profile. He knows now that if we do vote to leave then he will most likely be the next Tory leader and with it the next Prime Minister

I think this is it, whatever way he jumps it will be done so that it doesn't damage his future prospects. Also, I can't help but feel that the Telegraph must have paid Boris for his exclusive announcement, what on earth is all that about

[arista]

Boris will not take part in any Platforms with others.


But Has Confirmed he wants to Leave The EU

[arista]

Feck Up BBC News camera stayed on Sky NewsHD reporter Fisal
on the right corner for 2mins

[Jords]

Im not all that political but Id say in.

[arista]

[joeysteele]

I think actually of just about all those MPs who have made their points as to why they came down on the side they have, Boris Johnson's came across as the least sincere for me.

He just may have gambled the wrong way on this one and I loved Michael Heseltine's assessment of Boris's stance too.

Now there indeed speaking of Michael Heseltine, is a man worth listening to on this issue.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't think Boris is even passionate about leaving the EU, he's just calculating the best move for his career and his own profile. He knows now that if we do vote to leave then he will most likely be the next Tory leader and with it the next Prime Minister

..I think that one of the worst types of party leader/or Prime Minister is one that is ego driven, which Boris always seems to be...

[Northern Monkey]

Good old Boris.He's an idiot but he's popular.

[joeysteele]

I think the amiable buffoon image is an act and the real person Boris is far from probably being someone to rely on.
Always out for himself and cunning with it.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Good old Boris.He's an idiot but he's popular.

But there's no denying he's a turn coat.

I'm sitting in a neutral position and its clear from where I'm sitting that Boris wanted to wait and see what the bookies were doing. Regardless of in or out, he's just lost his next chance of leading this government.

[DemolitionRed]

With the majority of Cameron's cabinet turning towards the out vote, does anyone else here think Camerons finished?

If we leave Europe will he be able to continue leading this country as a pro European ?
If we stay in, there's going to be a lot of Conservative MP's pushing for a referendum.

Which ever way we go, I can't see Cameron surviving this.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think the amiable buffoon image is an act and the real person Boris is far from probably being someone to rely on.
Always out for himself and cunning with it.

..I don't think for me personally and my thoughts Joey, is that it's an act..I do think that 'the amiable buffoon' is a genuine part of who he is but it's more that I think other things/dimensions get over-looked because of that aspect of his character..and as we know, everyone I multi-dimensional in their personality...he wouldn't have achieved anything at all, had he only been a lovable/type buffoon...and he also seems to like to be controversial and 'go against' for attention...so my fear if he ever were to become PM, is that the whole country and all of his cabinet could be screaming NOOOO/etc...and he would go with YES/lights, camera, action.../because of his ego and controversial attention...