[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The problem you have, Arista, is that I'm perfectly correct about it all, and you refuse to acknowledge reality.

No I accept what you are saying
but it is not Brexit Alone,
If only you could agree?

Bloody China's Covid
halted our HGV drivers

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

No I accept what you are saying
but it is not Brexit Alone,
If only you could agree?

Bloody China's Covid
halted our HGV drivers

I believe I've acknowledged that it has added to it, but how many specialised HGV drivers can complete their training and test per day?

If we take the last 500 days (just under 18 months), the UK would have to have got 200 drivers through their training and test per day, which is impossible.

This was projected to happen as part of brexit. A couple of days ago, you tried to pretend it was all covid in that stupid KFC thread, and wouldn't accept when I pointed out it was because of brexit.

Another thing you completely miss, is that if the largest companies in the uk market are having these issues, what do you think is happening further down the food chain?

[Cherie]

Listening to the HGV drivers this am on phone in's there are loads of factors

Tesco outsourcing their drivers, and no longer having their own drivers, how many more supermarket do this?

DVLA delays (experienced this ourselves Mr C waiting 3 months for his licence to be renewed ) and no one answering a phone

HGV drivers have to be 25 to get insurance even though they can get their licence at 18

Zero hour contracts - see Tesco who used to paid their drivers well and we on contracts but then outsourced

Delays at supermarkets unloading leading to loads being picked up late

Covid - people do not want to travel

Brexit


2,500 fee to apply for licence

Young people do not want to be lorry drivers they all want Uni or to be famous lol

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Listening to the HGV drivers this am on phone in's there are loads of factors

Tesco outsourcing their drivers, and no longer having their own drivers, how many more supermarket do this?

DVLA delays (experienced this ourselves Mr C waiting 3 months for his licence to be renewed ) and no one answering a phone

HGV drivers have to be 25 to get insurance even though they can get their licence at 18

Zero hour contracts - see Tesco who used to paid their drivers well and we on contracts but then outsourced

Delays at supermarkets unloading leading to loads being picked up late

Covid - people do not want to travel

Brexit


2,500 fee to apply for licence

Young people do not want to be lorry drivers they all want Uni or to be famous lol

Great Post Cherie

[Tom4784]

Deleted Post

[The Slim Reaper]

Tesco operate in the EU where no country is having these issues.

Delays at supermarkets are being caused by....

Zero hour contracts - it's really lovely to see people finally realise the absolute destruction being wrought upon society by capitalism. I take it Arista is now a Corbynista?

Ł11.30/hr stacking shelves in Aldi.
Ł11.80/hr for HGV drivers, who are only allowed to drive for 10 hrs per day, but will have to clock up 13-15/hr per days regularly to allow for load times. It's not much to do with being famous, it's to do with capitalism.


Again, no one is saying it's not a complicated issue with many factors, but I am definitely saying if we had remained we wouldn't have been having these issues that only we are having because we told EU drivers we don't want them anymore, or made their lives so difficult that it wasn't worth it.

As I already pointed out, all of these points only involve the biggest supermarkets/eateries, so what do people think is happening even lower down the food chain?

We're not even discussing farmers with all of their food rotting because the folks aren't there to pick it and transport it, or the fishermen that were lied to.

[bitontheslide]

spain have an acute hgv driver shortage too apparently

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

spain have an acute hgv driver shortage too apparently

I'm sure we'd all like hot HGV drivers

[Cherie]

he International Road Transport Union’s 2021 driver shortage survey has indicated that road transport companies expect a 10% rise in driver shortages this year.

In a statement published yesterday, the IRU explained that the coronavirus pandemic saw the shortage of truck drivers in Europe fall significantly in 2020 – from 24% to just 7%.

However, the survey also found that European companies are expecting a 17% shortfall in drivers this year. The 10% increase is on account of the extra demand created from economies across Europe recovering as vaccines allow lockdowns to be relaxed.

“Driver shortage threatens the functioning of road transport, supply chains, trade, the economy, and ultimately employment and citizens’ welfare. This is not an issue that can wait, action needs to be taken now,” said IRU Secretary General Umberto de Pretto.

According to the IRU, survey respondents cited a lack of trained drivers as the main cause in all regions (38% of the total respondents). Challenging working conditions, further exacerbated by the pandemic, and difficulties attracting women and young people to the profession were also mentioned.

The percentage of truck drivers under 25 fell nearly everywhere in 2020 and is down to 5% in Europe. The average age of drivers is increasing globally too, a trend the IRU has referred to as a “demographic time bomb” that will only get worse without action.

Last October, the IRU called on governments to make it easier for young adults to become lorry drivers. However, there are a number of barriers to entry that remain for those hoping to join the profession.

In this article we published following that IRU statement, a number of UK-based lorry drivers said that low pay, high training and insurance costs, as well as a lack of future prospects, make the position of lorry driver less attractive.

https://trans.info/en/iru-survey-eur...in-2021-226644

[Cherie]

We need robots, it's not a young person career

Arista?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We need robots, it's not a young person career

Arista?

Lack of Funding.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

spain have an acute hgv driver shortage too apparently

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I'm sure we'd all like hot HGV drivers

[arista]

Look Slim
Down Under Empty shelves as well
they had no Brexit?


Covid Problems like us.

[The Slim Reaper]

[LeatherTrumpet]

julie atkinson #ForeverEuropean #RejoinBlue heart #FBPA
@skatinggirl1
Flag of European UnionFlag of United KingdomHandshake#European #JohnsonOut


yep

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

julie atkinson #ForeverEuropean #RejoinBlue heart #FBPA
@skatinggirl1
Flag of European UnionFlag of United KingdomHandshake#European #JohnsonOut


yep

Did she write the article?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Did she write the article?

No the extreme left cash hungry dog whistle for hits hard left failed newspaper the independent did

Can you join the dots?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No the extreme left cash hungry dog whistle for hits hard left failed newspaper the independent did

Can you join the dots?

You ok, LT?

The independent isn't even a leftie paper, but do you think they're the only ones reporting the story? Would you like to comment on the story or just about the independent?

[LeatherTrumpet]

When you insult

You lose….....

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

When you insult

You lose….....

A simple no would have sufficed.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

A simple no would have sufficed.

So would a reply that did not break a tibb rule

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So would a reply that did not break a tibb rule

Which reply do you think breaks a tibb rule?

Can you do me a favour and post the tibb rule, too? I know you've been doing that a lot recently, so that would save some time for @mods and @admin.

[arista]

[Michel Barnier backs 'Frexit':
EU's former chief Brexit negotiator is branded
a 'hypocrite' after saying he wants France
to quit European courts of justice and human rights
Michel Barnier is considering running for the
French presidency next year
He said the role of the European Court
of Justice in France should be limited
He called for a referendum calling for
a ban on non-EU immigration to France]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...CJ-France.html

[arista]

This is a big Bully S.Bray
that needs to banned.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

This is a big Bully S.Bray
that needs to banned.

Poor little soul, he's still sulking because his fellow citizens didn't vote for what he wanted, and he's gonna let us know about it. He seems harmless enough to me, let him get on with it.