[mrmattybeck1]

Anyone else hoping there's less twists and nominations meddling this series

[LukeB]

yeah.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes, especially on the nomination process that made the Diary Room (or how Ch5 spelt it the once) the Dairy Room relevant.

[Daniel.]

No, Endemol are.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

No, Endemol are.

Omg thank you

[Jarrod]

I'm losing count of how many times we have to make it clear that Channel 5 aren't responsible for the twists or whatever happens during the series. Endemol produce the series and tell the producers and storyline producers what to do and what to make, not 5.

Channel 5 are the ones who buy the rights to air the show. Whatever is made, they need to show.

[Mystic Mock]

Storyline producers?

Has BB become a Soap?

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Storyline producers?

Has BB become a Soap?

Every show has storyline producers. They put together the bits you see in the House from the footage. They'll follow a certain event in the HL's instead of just random bits here and there.

[Jason.]

Ever since Emma took over from Brian, it's been twist-heavy. Not saying it's Emma's fault.
But ever since BB14, there's been a lot of twists.

When Brian was on the show, there wasn't much twists. Especially in the Civilian series, like BB13.

Over the last year the show has become "conflict heavy" too. BB15 and CBB15 being great examples.

Twists = Artifical Conflict = Trash
Good housemates = Natural Conflict = Entertainment

[reece(:]

The word "twist" is a parody of itself now.

[MB.]

At least we're not in 'Twistos Twist' territory just yet.

[Jason.]

I think BB16 could either make or break Big Brother.

If they don't learn from the mistakes they made in BB15, and CBB15.
Then I'm done with the Civilian BB, as well as the summer CBB.

The only thing I will watch is January CBB, as that feels classic and like an event.

And in the summer, I will just re-watch Channel 4 series on YouTube, as if they were airing for the first time.

[andybigbro]

I hope there is less nomination meddling. I don't mind the odd twist if it's good

[mrmattybeck1]

Originally Posted by BB6

I think BB16 could either make or break Big Brother.

If they don't learn from the mistakes they made in BB15, and CBB15.
Then I'm done with the Civilian BB, as well as the summer CBB.

The only thing I will watch is January CBB, as that feels classic and like an event.

And in the summer, I will just re-watch Channel 4 series on YouTube, as if they were airing for the first time.

Hardly any promotions for civilian bb it really is a sideshow for c5 now cbb is their main event sadly

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

The word "twist" is a parody of itself now.

I agree.

It's more like "norm" now. They're pretty much part of the format.

It just aggravates me how the producers are destroying the show more and more each series, and think it's what the viewers want.

It really annoys me. The producers in charge of BB15 should be executed - effective immediatley.

BB15 was such a rotten series. It wasn't your ordinary "bad" series, which you just shrugged off.

It was massive turning point, in BB. And, if they want the show to be successful, then they really need to fix up.

CBB15 was the same, but it had a lot of controversy and people talking about it, which bumped ratings.

If they keep producing series like BB15/CBB14/CBB15, then the ratings will average 800k, by 2018.

A step forward would be to take the show back to the time of BB14/CBB13, when both formats were working well.

The show may have become less tacky, as the series go by. But the series themselves are getting more rotten and rotten.

[MB.]

I'm not sure how viewing figures are going to fall to 800k if they keep producing series like CBB15, considering that's their most-viewed series an' all...

[MB.]

Sure, you could argue that BB14 has the highest civilian viewing figures on Channel 5, but it was just as twist and public influence-heavy as BB15 was. Plus, it wasn't up against a World Cup.

[mrmattybeck1]

Agree secrets and lies had a lot of issues it certainly wasn't perfect

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by mrmattybeck1

Hardly any promotions for civilian bb it really is a sideshow for c5 now cbb is their main event sadly

I agree.

I love how Endemol / C5 are overusing the CBB market.
All I can say is "Enjoy it whilst you can".

2 CBB's a year, and the fact they're both 4 weeks now, too. I wouldn't be surprised if CBB dies off, by the end of next year.

It will be so stale.

If BB16 is bad. I'm ditching BB, like C5 have.
I've given the show enough chances.

[mrmattybeck1]

Originally Posted by BB6

I agree.

I love how Endemol / C5 are overusing the CBB market.
All I can say is "Enjoy it whilst you can".

2 CBB's a year, and the fact they're both 4 weeks now, too. I wouldn't be surprised if CBB dies off, by the end of next year.

It will be so stale.

If BB16 is bad. I'm ditching BB, like C5 have.
I've given the show enough chances.

In a way could be good for normal bb the way its going c5 will kill off cbb for good soon 5 weeks in January was complete overkill bbuk for 10 weeks in summer is perfect

[mrmattybeck1]

Originally Posted by BB6

I agree.

I love how Endemol / C5 are overusing the CBB market.
All I can say is "Enjoy it whilst you can".

2 CBB's a year, and the fact they're both 4 weeks now, too. I wouldn't be surprised if CBB dies off, by the end of next year.

It will be so stale.

If BB16 is bad. I'm ditching BB, like C5 have.
I've given the show enough chances.

Just watch old bb on YouTube next summer if that's the case any final pass I'm done

[MB.]

Well, it's good to know that we all still have faith in this show.

[Daniel.]

I see

[Rob!]

This could be the best series ever. How about that little strand of optimism?

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

This could be the best series ever. How about that little strand of optimism?

BB6 exists so no