[sampvt]

We all know its wrong but this week the noms are up for grabs due to the task and the bunker crew. However Danny, Cristian, chloe and their leader Jack, with Joel and nick in the background with jade, are setting up future noms by openly planning a vote strategy prior to the ensuing weeks nominations, which is bang wrong.

Why doesent BB do something as these twats are forming an unbroken alliance which will get them all into the finals.

[Jack_]

Talking about noms should not be against the rules anyway

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Talking about noms should not be against the rules anyway

But it is

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

We all know its wrong but this week the noms are up for grabs due to the task and the bunker crew. However Danny, Cristian, chloe and their leader Jack, with Joel and nick in the background with jade, are setting up future noms by openly planning a vote strategy prior to the ensuing weeks nominations, which is bang wrong.

Why doesent BB do something as these twats are forming an unbroken alliance which will get them all into the finals.

[Niamh.]

Meh they don't need to talk about it to know that they're all going to be going for Marc, sam and Simon once they get their nomination rights back

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

But it is

...and it shouldn't be, which is my point.

Just because something's a rule or law doesn't make it right or mean we have to put up and shut up. Women voting used to be illegal, that doesn't mean it's right.

[rionablue]

They should be reprimanded for it. We will have to see in tonights highlights show if any action was taken

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

...and it shouldn't be, which is my point.

Just because something's a rule or law doesn't make it right or mean we have to put up and shut up. Women voting used to be illegal, that doesn't mean it's right.

Careful Jack, weren't you telling people who watched X Factor yesterday that they should just stop watching if they weren't happy with the way they run it?

[bots]

BB only takes action when it suits them to do so, they are never consistent

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Careful Jack, weren't you telling people who watched X Factor yesterday that they should just stop watching if they weren't happy with the way they run it?

Nominations are largely irrelevant these days as are the rules so it's not really that much of an issue, X Factor concentrating on entertainment over talent is though, nice try

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

BB only takes action when it suits them to do so, they are never consistent

This is very true especially since the move to channel 5

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Nominations are largely irrelevant these days as are the rules so it's not really that much of an issue, X Factor concentrating on entertainment over talent is though, nice try

Not talking about nominations is one of BB strictest rules

[waterhog]

there is difference about talking about noms and then talking about a pack mentality and sticking together - the question is - did they break the rules or bend them.?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Nominations are largely irrelevant these days as are the rules so it's not really that much of an issue, X Factor concentrating on entertainment over talent is though, nice try

in your opinion of course, personally i hated when they were allowed to discuss nominations and I hate how they don't stick to normal nominations anymore for the most part

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not talking about nominations is one of BB strictest rules

And? It shouldn't be, discussion of noms is far more interesting

Originally Posted by Niamh.

in your opinion of course, personally i hated when they were allowed to discuss nominations and I hate how they don't stick to normal nominations anymore for the most part

Of course, but my initial post was that in my opinion noms discussion shouldn't be against the rules and Chuff's rebuttal was that 'it is', which isn't really a justification lots of things are rules that shouldn't be

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And? It shouldn't be, discussion of noms is far more interesting



Of course, but my initial post was that in my opinion noms discussion shouldn't be against the rules and Chuff's rebuttal was that 'it is', which isn't really a justification lots of things are rules that shouldn't be

I know, I was just trying to be smart really, everyone is entitled to have their own thoughts and opinions about shows they watch without being told to watch something else

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I know, I was just trying to be smart really, everyone is entitled to have their own thoughts and opinions about shows they watch without been told to watch something else

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

...and it shouldn't be, which is my point.

Just because something's a rule or law doesn't make it right or mean we have to put up and shut up.

Likewise, a show shouldn't have to change an aspect it's had since the day it started just because some viewers, who've chosen to watch the show regardless, decide they don't like it. They held a vote during BB13 and the overwhelming majority wanted the usual rule reinstated, so it was.

Originally Posted by Jack_

Women voting used to be illegal, that doesn't mean it's right.

Hardly comparable.

[Marsh.]

I've always liked the "don't discuss nominations" rule. It stops the show being bogged down in tedious and so called "gameplay". BB15 gave us some kind of insight into BBUK as a full on gameshow and weeks like Chris being the secret power housemate were some of the worst BB I've ever seen.

Having said that, when they all nominate face to face week after week allowing them to follow the crowd, or play nominations into the house, and don't punish rule breaks and let people constantly get away with it allowing them then it's a largely irrelevant and pointless "rule" that is no longer even enforced.

[Marsh.]

Also, I don't see why BBUK should do things like that to morph into its American cousin.

Keep BBUK as BBUK please.

As if the "He/She is playing a game" talk isn't tedious enough.

[bots]

they seem happy to sacrifice the rules if it encourages confrontation, similarly, they enforced the rule with Nick and Jade to create their confrontation with the twins etc

[Jack_]

I'm definitely not getting into a discussion about that comparison between female voting rights and this which I knew would be started up when it would be quite obvious to most people that I was using it as an example of how just because a rule exists, doesn't mean it's right or should be agreed with, which is what Chuff's initial rebuttal was. Obviously there's no comparison between a real life democratic social issue and a rule on a reality television show, I'm not comparing like with like, just demonstrating how rules shouldn't just be accepted because they exist. If you agree with them, fine, however 'but it is' is hardly a defence of a rule's existence is it.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I know, I was just trying to be smart really, everyone is entitled to have their own thoughts and opinions about shows they watch without being told to watch something else

Never said they weren't, my point yesterday was that X Factor does primarily favour entertainment over talent, and that if people disagree with that principle and all of the instances I listed, I don't see why they would waste their time watching it. If they want to then so be it, but it doesn't make sense to me. The same doesn't apply to me here because the rule regarding noms discussion is so lax these days anyway and nominations barely ever happen that it's not enough to put me off watching the show.

[Marsh.]

Yes, but a real world law isn't the same as a rule within a reality show.

Especially a show based on a dystopian dictator known as Big Brother.

[Jack_]

I'm fully aware of that, my point is that a rule or law's existence shouldn't just be accepted because, well...it exists. If Chuff had said 'yes it should be a rule, because...' then that'd be fine, but 'well it is a rule' is hardly a justification for its existence

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Also, I don't see why BBUK should do things like that to morph into its American cousin.

Keep BBUK as BBUK please.

As if the "He/She is playing a game" talk isn't tedious enough.

Actually that's the best thing this show could do tbh

That talk makes me laugh because barely anyone on BBUK plays a game, but since people are so intent on discussing it every year, they may as well turn it into the game that it should be