[LeatherTrumpet]

"Newly released video might offer a reason for anyone who has ever said...

"Why didn't they shoot him in the leg?"
"Why didn't they tazer him?"
"Why didn't they hit him with a baton?"


On January 7, 2015, at approximately 12:45 p.m.,
Columbus Regional Airport Authority police officers were investigating an unauthorized vehicle parked in a restricted area outside the Port Columbus terminal. At about the same time, officers were alerted to a man who attempted to purchase a plane ticket with identification
belonging to a female. The man did not purchase a plane ticket and left the building.

These two incidents, which at first did not seem connected, were reported to the Airport Communications Center. Personnel in the Communications Center were able to focus a
security camera on the suspicious vehicle, which was soon approached by the man who attempted to purchase the plane ticket. The police officer who had been initially dispatched to the ticket counter made his way to the parking area to talk with the driver.

After a brief discussion and request for identification, the man suddenly produced a knife and attacked the officer. As the officer moved back from his attacker, he was blocked by a parked car and fell backwards onto the hood. He fired his weapon from the hip at close range as the assailant continued the knife attack. The injured attacker was pushed away and fell to the ground, allowing the officer to move to a position of safety.

After a few seconds, the attacker, with the knife still in his hand, got up and began to move toward the officer. A second officer arrived on scene and drew his duty weapon. With this officer providing cover, the first officer holstered his handgun and drew his Taser to subdue the man. The Taser malfunctioned and was ineffective.

Officer #2, a departmental defensive tactics instructor, was not carrying a Taser on his utility uniform. Since he is an expert with an expandable baton, he felt that he could disarm the man with his baton. He holstered his handgun, drew his baton, and engaged the man. He was successful in delivering one blow with the baton, but the knife was retained and the man continued past him toward the terminal doorways.

As officer #2 again drew his firearm,officer #3 came out of the terminal and engaged the advancing, knife-wielding man as he neared the entrance to the terminal building. Officer #3 fired three shots, stopping the threat.

Police officers secured the suspect and administered first aid as airport fire department medics were dispatched. Medics were on scene in less than five minutes but he died"

Youtube video

Great work there by the law enforcement officers in a dangerous situation

[Kizzy]

What's the point here?
I don't get what we're meant to discuss.. The mentally unstable, guns, airport security?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What's the point here?
I don't get what we're meant to discuss.. The mentally unstable, guns, airport security?

Would a Taser be better

[Niamh.]

"Newly released video might offer a reason for anyone who has ever said...

Not really, I haven't watched the video but read the article, by the sounds of it these officers acted in an appropriate way and tried to subdue the man without first shooting to kill. Good for them, that's what all officers should do. Chances are if the taser hadn't malfunctioned the man would still be alive.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Would a Taser be better

For who... the police, the public, airport security? Anyone is at risk of a random attack at any time.

[Tom4784]

I don't think this story has any correlation with other stories of police shootings and brutality. The police in this story exhausted all their options before resorting to their guns and that was the right thing to do, the problem with all the other stories is that the police officers involved use their guns at the first opportunity.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

For who... the police, the public, airport security? Anyone is at risk of a random attack at any time.

Yes could be he wanted to be shot
Crazy minded

[Livia]

I don't have a problem with him being shot dead. Sends a clear message to everyone. I don't see this as in any way similar to the brutal and unnecessary shootings recently highlighted on here.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What's the point here?
I don't get what we're meant to discuss.. The mentally unstable, guns, airport security?

Its an illustration of balance and perspective


and just what a difficult job law enforcement officers do.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its an illustration of balance and perspective


and just what a difficult job law enforcement officers do.

I don't think anyone would deny that law enforcement is a difficult and sometimes dangerous job LT but imo you do them a disservice by taking the Police Officers side 100% of the time. There's bad eggs in every profession but in some professions having bad eggs can be lethal which is why it's very important to make sure that those people not suited to the job are identified and removed for not only the benefit of citizens but for the reputation of the Police force as a whole and particularly the good cops out there which I'm sure out number the bad ones

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think anyone would deny that law enforcement is a difficult and sometimes dangerous job LT but imo you do them a disservice by taking the Police Officers side 100% of the time. There's bad eggs in every profession but in some professions having bad eggs can be lethal which is why it's very important to make sure that those people not suited to the job are identified and removed for not only the benefit of citizens but for the reputation of the Police force as a whole and particularly the good cops out there which I'm sure out number the bad ones

The Law needs our support and understanding

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The Law needs our support and understanding

So they should not answer to anyone or be accountable for anything? Don't be ridiculous

[Toy Soldier]

Yes, shooting a deranged and advancing armed attacker when all other options have been exhausted is more or less exactly the same as shooting a fleeing and often unarmed suspect in the back. Bravo LT, your skills of persuasion are unquestionable.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes, shooting a deranged and advancing armed attacker when all other options have been exhausted is more or less exactly the same as shooting a fleeing and often unarmed suspect in the back. Bravo LT, your skills of persuasion are unquestionable.

TS


Its the Law Of the Land

USA

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So they should not answer to anyone or be accountable for anything? Don't be ridiculous

You said that not me

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes, shooting a deranged and advancing armed attacker when all other options have been exhausted is more or less exactly the same as shooting a fleeing and often unarmed suspect in the back. Bravo LT, your skills of persuasion are unquestionable.

again, you said that not me

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You said that not me

I asked you a question which you didn't answer

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So they should not answer to anyone or be accountable for anything? Don't be ridiculous

Both the USA and UK have PCA's to deal with bad apples or errors based on lack of training/circumstances etc

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Both the USA and UK have PCA's to deal with bad apples or errors based on lack of training/circumstances etc

So you agree with me that sometimes the Police are wrong, great

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So you agree with me that sometimes the Police are wrong, great

The police have a lot more circumstances to deal with so in many situations "getting it wrong" is contentious or not the best way to look at it and not that simple as the video suggests

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The police have a lot more circumstances to deal with so in many situations "getting it wrong" is contentious or not the best way to look at it and not that simple as the video suggests

Everyone gets things wrong LT, in all walks of life, there's no one immune to that

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

again, you said that not me

Your OP seems to be suggesting that because this video shows an example of a justified use of force by the police, it follows that all or even most uses of force by the police are justified.

This is not logical. They may or may not be. This video tells us nothing about anything other than this specific case.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Your OP seems to be suggesting that because this video shows an example of a justified use of force by the police, it follows that all or even most uses of force by the police are justified.

This is not logical. They may or may not be. This video tells us nothing about anything other than this specific case.

It shows you that good training works and that law enforcement officers face many complex and life threatening challenges to keep the public safe

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It shows you that good training works and that law enforcement officers face many complex and life threatening challenges to keep the public safe

Which in no way guarantees that some aren't trigger happy, or that there aren't plenty of examples of excessive force being used.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its an illustration of balance and perspective


and just what a difficult job law enforcement officers do.

It's nothing of the sort, it's a mentally unstable person attacking an officer in this instance the use of extreme force was necessary. Are you attempting to equate this with other acts of brutality I do hope not.
I know what officers do I have a degree in it.