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Old 18-07-2015, 11:27 AM #26
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I hope this topples the Sun too because they're talk about how they obtained this footage/if they doctored it or not

Its all Legal
other Royal members had copys


The Sun is selling extra papers today
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I hope this topples the Sun too because they're talk about how they obtained this footage/if they doctored it or not
What's this talk of doctoring it??
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The England football team in 1938 !
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Context is everything. Also, isn't hindsight a wonderful thing.
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They are trying to judge a 7 year old girl in 1933 by 2015 standards
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The England football team in 1938 !


Yes Salute the Leader
also in the 1936 Berlin Olympics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Summer_Olympics
A great time when Black American Jesse Owens
beat the Nazi Tough runners

Upsetting Hitler
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Better than Super Tough Nazi Runners

Utter Bliss

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They are trying to judge a 7 year old girl in 1933 by 2015 standards

Its like Monty Python of that early Nazi time.


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Better than Super Tough Nazi Runners

Utter Bliss
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It's a non-story.

It was a few years before WW2 happened and, at that point of time, they were just referencing a gesture from a foreign government. It's silly and misleading to drag it up now but then again I'd never expect competent journalism or common sense from The Sun.

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THEY ARE ALL AT IT NOW

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"Sun being the"

No Joey
I noticed more younger women Buying the Sun this morning.



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Embrace It
I know of at least 12 people who buy the Sun on a Saturday arista, who take it home, take out the TV mag section and the Sun is then left unread and goes into the re-cycling bin.
The re-cycling bin,in fact,being the only decent thing about it too.

It will never be my Sun, I wouldn't even touch it, let alone buy it or read it.
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I can see Sweep but Sooty as well ??
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THEY ARE ALL AT IT NOW
now we know who is leading isis!!!!!!!
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If a country has a royal family imposed on them then it is of historical interest that a King of known Nazi sympathies liked to encourage his daughters to give Nazi salutes on film as part of a great afternoon of family frolicking. Yes no one could have foreseen the Holocaust, yes people abided by diplomatic etiquette in giving the salute sometimes but people were aware of Nazism's nature and the dangers of it
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Life Goes On Today

The Queen Driving
Today with her Armed Bodyguard
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hi everyone. now BB has ended i am going to try and get back into the news. i really liked this story as i do anything to do with the queen. hope you can all spot every song in it.

shame on the sun paper (Nazi salute) - lets boycott and show our Queen will rock you 19.07.15


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footage has now appeared with grammar
it is causing the palace division wall
my aim is for the sun to loose glamour
i prey they are a "hammer to a fall".
at her age of the video
it was no "these days of our lives"
the "Nazi salute" was as popular as "Eldardo"
like to the BBC to the sun we must show knives.
"don't try so hard"
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like "father to a son" they have sinned.
how dare our "monarchy" you shame
its to big for "the sun" to handle
so let me "play the game"
and show everyone this "scandal".
before the rise of "Hitler"
this salute was no "seven seas of rhye"
is the sun saying Elisabeth done worse then garry glitter
i have to ask why.
come on people and unite
lets to the "Queen" set a tone
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that's why they must be "living on my own".
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down in a "flash" is this papers destination
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Gary Glitter is Far worse
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Queen was young, probably had no idea what she was doing. Her mum though... I mean, the Nazis were still very outspokenly racist pre-1933 and even though nobody knew what they were going to do, they still had their Sturmabteilung who were very violent.
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This was years before the war. Hitler had only just come to power, we were still trying to make peace with the Germans right up to September '39 when they invaded Poland and it finally kicked off. What a massive and ridiculous fuss over a picture that meant nothing then and means nothing now.
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Queen was young, probably had no idea what she was doing. Her mum though... I mean, the Nazis were still very outspokenly racist pre-1933 and even though nobody knew what they were going to do, they still had their Sturmabteilung who were very violent.
Correct Josh, the British royal family and several prominent British gentry members had very real and very demonstrable links to Hitler and various other elements of the Nazi party, long after their tendencies for violence and supremacy were known.

I find it mind-boggling that people are so desperate to rewrite this history. Well no actually, I know exactly why people want to, what I find mind-boggling is that people are so able to.

I guess there's a certain set "narrative" to the second world war that people just don't want to deviate from.
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Queen was young, probably had no idea what she was doing. Her mum though... I mean, the Nazis were still very outspokenly racist pre-1933 and even though nobody knew what they were going to do, they still had their Sturmabteilung who were very violent.

Yes she was to young, just Larking about.

But the Older ones there had a Good idea that Hitler
was going to change things.
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Correct Josh, the British royal family and several prominent British gentry members had very real and very demonstrable links to Hitler and various other elements of the Nazi party, long after their tendencies for violence and supremacy were known.

I find it mind-boggling that people are so desperate to rewrite this history. Well no actually, I know exactly why people want to, what I find mind-boggling is that people are so able to.

I guess there's a certain set "narrative" to the second world war that people just don't want to deviate from.

To put this into perspective, this story centres on an eighty year old picture of a six year old girl. And frankly, I think the Queen Mother demonstrated during WW2 who's side she was on and the Queen herself served as a driver and mechanic in the ATS. The only people trying to rewrite history here work for a third-rate tabloid that's good only in an emergency if you should run out of toilet paper.
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To put this into perspective, this story centres on an eighty year old picture of a six year old girl. And frankly, I think the Queen Mother demonstrated during WW2 who's side she was on and the Queen herself served as a driver and mechanic in the ATS. The only people trying to rewrite history here work for a third-rate tabloid that's good only in an emergency if you should run out of toilet paper.
So there are no links at all between the Royals / the British gentry and the German Nazi party at all. No hints of any sort of Nazi sympathising at all. Gotcha.

Is it easier to live in a world with a whitewashed version of history? I assume it must be, I don't understand why people are so keen to do it otherwise.
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