[the truth]

good learning asset? what a load of trolling
texting back and forth with mates , endless distraction

turn them off and learn the subjects...theres computers to help with finding information..

[Ammi]

...well, it's often said...'life skills' is the thing and should be a concentration in schools and there is no more a huge part of life than a mobile phone..so banning them would seem the most dumb thing and would teach nothing of a 'life skill' there..it's more allowing them and teaching when it's appropriate/not appropriate to use it in school...

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by the truth

good learning asset? what a load of trolling
texting back and forth with mates , endless distraction

turn them off and learn the subjects...theres computers to help with finding information..

Totally agree... In fact I cannot any sensible argument for allowing pupils to have these devices in their possession when they are in the classroom. They provide a source of constant distraction and irritation to teachers.

They should be banned from all classrooms without exception.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Totally agree... In fact I cannot any sensible argument for allowing pupils to have these devices in their possession when they are in the classroom. They provide a source of constant distraction and irritation to teachers.
They should be banned from all classrooms without exception.

..and also Nedusa though..a 'cause of distraction' in many areas of life for adults and in many situations so it's also to teach a discipline in using them and making anything a 'taboo' never does that...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...well, it's often said...'life skills' is the thing and should be a concentration in schools and there is no more a huge part of life than a mobile phone..so banning them would seem the most dumb thing and would teach nothing of a 'life skill' there..it's more allowing them and teaching when it's appropriate/not appropriate to use it in school...

But its only while the Lesson is going
They will learn better controlled things on a 10" Tablet
given to all kids while is some lessons

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

.....I work in a Primary school, Arista...many of the children don't have mobiles and with the ones who do..?..they generally only bring them to school if they're going home alone ...but mobiles in Upper schools are a good learning asset in classrooms and I think should stay right where they are...

Thats Good
they will learn the Rule
turn off while Teacher speaks.

They will save their power
and as some have them for safety going home
this is a good thing

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

But its only while the Lesson is going
They will learn better controlled things on a 10" Tablet
given to all kids while is some lessons

..ok so we'll ban them from streets only while people are walking so they're not distracted and don't bump into anyone...we'll ban them from restaurants while people are eating with others and shouldn't be distracted by their phones...etc etc....it teaches more of a self discipline lesson to have them and teaches far more of a 'life skill' than banning them would...very few schools would have the funding to provide enough tablets needed...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..ok so we'll ban them from streets only while people are walking so they're not distracted and don't bump into anyone...we'll ban them from restaurants while people are eating with others and shouldn't be distracted by their phones...etc etc....it teaches more of a self discipline lesson to have them and teaches far more of a 'life skill' than banning them would...very few schools would have the funding to provide enough tablets needed...

No
its OK to bump into people.


They are not Outright Banned
only once the Teacher starts the lesson
It makes good sense.

[Ammi]

..it would make so little sense for teachers to spend lesson time, checking if mobile phones are all switched off..so, so little sense...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it would make so little sense for teachers to spend lesson time, checking if mobile phones are all switched off..so, so little sense...

They turn off in Unity
that speeds it up.
The Teacher checking is fine

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

They turn off in Unity
that speeds it up.
The Teacher checking is fine

..and how would it be known that they had 'turned off in unity' without checks being done and lesson time being taken up for those checks..and then of course, looking at individual reasons and explanations why a pupil may need to have their phone switched on at a particular time etc...while all the while OFSTED also insisting on statistic attainments/targets as well to be reached so all lesson time is important to be dedicated to the lesson subject...mobile phones are a fact of life and so is self discipline so a far better thing to teach..let's not as they say, produce 'drones' in our schools..let's teach them to use their own initiative etc...

[arista]

They will get it in place
and Unity is essential in a Class

Mobile Phones will not be banned
Only in a lesson.

Its the sensible way forward

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

They will get it in place
and Unity is essential in a Class

Mobile Phones will not be banned
Only in a lesson.

Its the sensible way forward

..nope, 'forward' is accepting the biggest communication technology of today and 'sensible' is helping to teach self discipline and appropriate times etc in usage...'taboo' is a very 'backward' thought process..


... life in the fast lane, Arista....'life lessons' to be taught, not banned..


...anyways, enjoy your day and happy usage of your mobile phone...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..nope, 'forward' is accepting the biggest communication technology of today and 'sensible' is helping to teach self discipline and appropriate times etc in usage...'taboo' is a very 'backward' thought process..


... life in the fast lane, Arista....'life lessons' to be taught, not banned..


...anyways, enjoy your day and happy usage of your mobile phone...

Yes all schools should get the 10" Tablet
bought in massive bulk they cost very little
one system
that will show kids the right way to go.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..and also Nedusa though..a 'cause of distraction' in many areas of life for adults and in many situations so it's also to teach a discipline in using them and making anything a 'taboo' never does that...

I think the teachers have a tough enough job to do in trying to teach a class of 25 unruly adolescents without trying to coax them to learn not to use their phones.

The classroom should be a phone free environment , it should be accepted as such from the beginning . No phones allowed in places of teaching a simple golden rule that would eliminate this problem at a stroke.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...well, it's often said...'life skills' is the thing and should be a concentration in schools and there is no more a huge part of life than a mobile phone..so banning them would seem the most dumb thing and would teach nothing of a 'life skill' there..it's more allowing them and teaching when it's appropriate/not appropriate to use it in school...

This is the saddest thing I've ever heard :/

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I think the teachers have a tough enough job to do in trying to teach a class of 25 unruly adolescents without trying to coax them to learn not to use their phones.

The classroom should be a phone free environment , it should be accepted as such from the beginning . No phones allowed in places of teaching a simple golden rule that would eliminate this problem at a stroke.

Yea but were not saying that kids should be able to use whenever they want, if the teachers says phones off then that's ok Nd kids should out their phones off
But in some situations it can be a great way of learning. Students are doing more or their own research rather than answering endless textbook questions or listen to their teacher ramble on.
It's the same with computers and laptops but why should the schools spend thousands on them when kids have their own phones. If they can be properly monitered then there really is in issue

[Kizzy]

They can't be monitored though that is the issue... teachers can't be hanging over the shoulder of every student or sat at the back micromanaging the devices can they? It's unworkable.

[Ammi]

..well, too much emphasis..(imo of course..)..being placed on the fact that they're phones when they're also a free classroom technology resource/computer as well as being calculators etc..so if they're banned then maybe OFSTED can supply funding to replace that free resource....strangely, an odd concept maybe but most students actually want to learn in their lessons, rather than spend time texting friends who are also in their lessons and wanting to learn/ interested in learning...any student who has no interest in learning at all, then I doubt they would have any interest, whether they had their phones in lessons or not because those phones are not really their 'issue/problem' etc ...that's something that needs addressing separately ....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lewis111

Yea but were not saying that kids should be able to use whenever they want, if the teachers says phones off then that's ok Nd kids should out their phones off
But in some situations it can be a great way of learning. Students are doing more or their own research rather than answering endless textbook questions or listen to their teacher ramble on.
It's the same with computers and laptops but why should the schools spend thousands on them when kids have their own phones. If they can be properly monitered then there really is in issue

..indeed lewis, they're so much more than phones and sometimes need to be switched on in lessons...they're one of those great and thankful things for schools...A FREE RESOURCE.....

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They can't be monitored though that is the issue... teachers can't be hanging over the shoulder of every student or sat at the back micromanaging the devices can they? It's unworkable.

Well it can be put down to trust and often checking the progress of work,IF they've done little give them a textbook, or used in a lesson that's maybe nit that important for example doing a poster towards the end of term etc

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This is the saddest thing I've ever heard :/

Good Point

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This is the saddest thing I've ever heard :/

Totally agree, it's just a little piece of plastic and glass that's all... And when the battery is flat or their is no signal it's about as much use as a chocolate fireguard or an ashtray on a motorbike .

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They can't be monitored though that is the issue... teachers can't be hanging over the shoulder of every student or sat at the back micromanaging the devices can they? It's unworkable.

No but once that one pupil
Turns on his phone.

He or She will be Expelled

Rules Are Rules

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by arista

No but once that one pupil
Turns on his phone.

He or She will be Expelled

Rules Are Rules

I just find it so ludicrous that you could think that that is a reasonable punishment for something as small as putting their phone on. If they do use it they are affecting no one but themselves. If someone has their phone out in class, they should be asked to put it away THAT is a reasonable response,
If caught with it again then the phone should be taken off them intill end of class or end of day