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Old 16-01-2016, 11:04 PM #1
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Default Should preaching of Sharia Law be considered hate speech?

(sorry that was supposed to say 'hate speech' in the poll, not 'hate crime')

Should it be treated as hate speech?? If yes, what should happen to those who preach it?
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It's not the law and never will be so even if it's not against the law it's effectively pointless.
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Nah, religious courts like Sharia ones have operated in this country for decades and there's nothing inherently violent or threatening about Sharia law. The way that some Sharia courts operate is pretty dubious but to ban the support of them is far too authoritarian.
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Nah, religious courts like Sharia ones have operated in this country for decades and there's nothing inherently violent or threatening about Sharia law. The way that some Sharia courts operate is pretty dubious but to ban the support of them is far too authoritarian.
Clearly we have very different background knowledge on what Sharia Law is
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Clearly we have very different background knowledge on what Sharia Law is
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(sorry that was supposed to say 'hate speech' in the poll, not 'hate crime')

Should it be treated as hate speech?? If yes, what should happen to those who preach it?
Not if the laws that they follow fall within the laws of the land.

It's like legal agreements, and terms of purchase etc. No "legal" document can prescribe any actions that fall outside of UK law.

If they try and follow laws at odds within the UK, then it is a completely different matter and they should be prosecuted.

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I can't see how sharia law is even legal in Britain. If you live in Britain, surely you should abide by British laws? If you want anything else, go somewhere where they practise the laws you favour.
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A hell of a lot of oppressed, suppressed and abused Muslim wives are wishing Sharia Law was banned in Britain - you can bet your life on THAT.
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A hell of a lot of oppressed, suppressed and abused Muslim wives are wishing Sharia Law was banned in Britain - you can bet your life on THAT.

Yes but they can not go public as may be Killed
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Clearly we have very different background knowledge on what Sharia Law is
There are many Sharia courts in the UK that have functioned legally for years
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Does Sharia law even have a place in Britain ?
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The OP states preaching not practicing.
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The OP states preaching not practicing.
What are you saying? What point are you making?
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Yes but they can not go public as may be Killed
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Damned Right Arista - You have got it in one.
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I would just ban the whole religion
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The OP states preaching not practicing.
Well it would be a little bit strange to ban the preaching of it while the practice of it was legal
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It seems we're a bit topsy turvy on this issue as it's suggested we silence those wanting sharia law via legislation whilst at the same time letting it in the back door with sharia being allowed via the arbitration Act.

'ISLAMIC extremists who publicly demand that Sharia law replaces British legislation or try to enforce rules through their own courts could face prosecution under plans being worked on by the Home Office, the Daily Express has learned.'

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'Islamic sharia law courts in Britain are exploiting a little-known legal clause to make their verdicts officially binding under UK law in cases including divorce, financial disputes and even domestic violence.
A new network of courts in five major cities is hearing cases where Muslims involved agree to be bound by traditional sharia law, and under the 1996 Arbitration Act the court's decisions can then be enforced by the county courts or the High Court.
Officials behind the new system claim to have dealt with more than 100 cases since last summer, including six involving domestic violence which is a criminal rather than civil offence, and said they hoped to take over growing numbers of 'smaller' criminal cases in future.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-binding.html

Jewish Beth Din courts use the same arbitration act to function, a change in this act would impact on both.
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Well it would be a little bit strange to ban the preaching of it while the practice of it was legal
Yes it is, I've highlighted that in my last post it's highly contradictory.
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I voted no but if they are preaching it as to demanding or wanting it for all in the UK,then I would vote yes.
Most of sharia law has no place in British society.
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If UK or any other none muslim citizens settled in a muslim country and started doing this they would be stoned to death. I voted yes it should be banned because it is quite clear that they have no intention at all of ever integrating in any none muslim country.
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Of course not, everyone should be allowed to speak their mind.

Education will prove that their wrong.
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As long as it doesn't clash with the law of the land and all that are involved in it agree to abide by it I see no problem.
I think of it more like arbitration, try to keep everyone happy without massive legal fees.
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