[MB.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Compared to the other artists who are up? That's nothing

Compared to, say, Eagles of Death Metal who've never had a UK top 40 single and Amy Winehouse, who's been dead for five years?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Hasn't the Brits always been a bit more mainstream?

Honestly it comes across as her just moaning in general, if the MOBOS ignored Grime I would see the point.

but grime has hit mainstream the past year, that's exactly the point because it's still going unrecognised in favour of people with guitars who make for perfect BBC Radio 1 fodder.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Jake.

well given how grime has kinda gone mainstream that was kind of my point but yeah

Has it? All I can think of is Stormyz who didn't even perform well in the charts.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by MB.

Compared to, say, Eagles of Death Metal who've never had a UK top 40 single and Amy Winehouse, who's been dead for five years?

lmao

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I mean yeah #2 is nothing compared to #1, so far apart

What do you want them to do? That song has reached #1 but it's their only song to chart this year but we best include them because of their skin colour so people don't go mad and forget about that one who has had 3 top tens and a hit album

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Has it? All I can think of is Stormyz who didn't even perform well in the charts.

Well yes he did because he got to #8 in the week of the Christmas number one race

[Denver]

Originally Posted by MB.

Compared to, say, Eagles of Death Metal who've never had a UK top 40 single and Amy Winehouse, who's been dead for five years?

Eagles of Death Metal was a stupid decision because of what happened and Amy Winehouse had a film about her and I'm sure a #1 album

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

What do you want them to do? That song has reached #1 but it's their only song to chart this year but we best include them because of their skin colour so people don't go mad and forget about that one who has had 3 top tens and a hit album

unlike James Bay who didn't have a top fourty single last year

[Denver]

Originally Posted by MB.

Well yes he did because he got to #8 in the week of the Christmas number one race

#8 for 1 week then dropped massively the next

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jake.

but grime has hit mainstream the past year, that's exactly the point because it's still going unrecognised in favour of people with guitars who make for perfect BBC Radio 1 fodder.

The only Grime Music that will ever get recognised by The Grammys are the more Popped up songs, hence why out of the Indie/Folk genre James Bay and Ed Sheeran have been so successful because they're essentially Pop Music with a fusion of Indie/Folk.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Jake.

unlike James Bay who didn't have a top fourty single last year

He had a hit album

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MB.

Compared to, say, Eagles of Death Metal who've never had a UK top 40 single and Amy Winehouse, who's been dead for five years?

Wow! they sound great on paper.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He had a bit album

Originally Posted by Adam.

What do you want them to do? That song has reached #1 but it's their only song to chart this year but we best include them because of their skin colour so people don't go mad and forget about that one who has had 3 top tens and a hit album

which opinion are you going with? that nominees for the brits are nominated on success or talent, because your views are kinda conflicting

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Jake.

which opinion are you going with? that nominees for the brits are nominated on success or talent, because your views are kinda conflicting

You need both and clearly his fans think he is talented

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

#8 for 1 week then dropped massively the next

Actually the week afterwards he stayed at #9 and is still in the top 40 to this day (two months later) but sure, make completely unsubstantiated claims to further your completely unsubstantiated argument

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You need both and clearly his fans think he is talented

I doubt that the public judge on talent when you've got Zayn Malik, Justin Bieber, and Shawn Mendes dominating the UK Charts.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You need both and clearly his fans think he is talented

completely irrelevant lmao yeah I think we're done here

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Jake.

but grime has hit mainstream the past year, that's exactly the point because it's still going unrecognised in favour of people with guitars who make for perfect BBC Radio 1 fodder.

I don't listen to radio 1, I do scan the top 40 on Spotify though and as I mentioned I can only recall Stormyz and didn't it not even scrape the top 10?

I'm not trying to be difficult here but why should artists be excluded from nominee short lists in favour of less successful acts just to add diversity?

[Tom4784]

Go to any high street in the UK, pick up a rock and throw it and you'll hit a busker that is as good or better than him. He's just a busker with a record contract and he isn't worthy of any accolades when he's basically an Aldi brand version of Ed Sheeran and we don't need him, never mind his bargain bin clones.

Say what you will about Lily but her music is certainly more memorable and interesting. James Bay is just a one hit wonder who's only gotten as far as he has because the public seem to be obsessed with boring af white guys with guitars and no sense of individuality and a uniform approach to music.

[Amy Jade]

Urghhh do we really have to argue? is it too much to ask we just have a conversation with no petty sarcasm?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Go to any high street in the UK, pick up a rock and throw it and you'll hit a busker that is as good or better than him. He's just a busker with a record contract and he isn't worthy of any accolades when he's basically an Aldi brand version of Ed Sheeran and we don't need him, never mind his bargain bin clones.

Say what you will about Lily but her music is certainly more memorable and interesting. James Bay is just a one hit wonder who's only gotten as far as he has because the public seem to be obsessed with boring af white guys with guitars and no sense of individuality and a uniform approach to music.

He is something that's very rare in British music and that's song writers.

Most of the trash who make the charts these days wouldn't even know how to write a letter let alone a song

[Shaun]

If it means not acknowledging the likes of 'Skepta' and 'Stormzy' as musical excellence then I am quite happy to go along with them if they're being called racist tbh.

But yes her drags are excellent and deserved. What is he.

[Amy Jade]

I'm glad Flashlight has a nomination though!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Your done because you know you have nothing else to add to your baiting

Were the following posts not your first two posts in this thread? The first one was to get a reaction out of me and then your second post was meant to get a reaction out of Jake. I wouldn't really accuse anyone of something you're guilty of doing yourself.

Originally Posted by Adam.

Not Lily dragging someone a million times more talented then her

Originally Posted by Adam.

Has she ever won a Brit? Has she ever performed at the Grammy's?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Your the one saying he doesn't deserve his nomination and it should go to someone who isn't white actually I'm surprised you haven't suggested Lily should be nominated

quote me where I said he doesn't deserve to be nominated.