[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Everyone in here with a different point of view to yours is some how uneducated. We have not apparently read the story

Didn't say you are uneducated, just that you didn't read the article which is true because you didn't know the circumstances of the shooting. Not sure where this 'uneducated' business has come from, I can only assume it's a Freudian slip on your part.

It's not about opinions, it's about facts. a police officer was shot nine times because of another police officer's incompetence. FACT. The police officer that fired his gun was never in danger from the officer he shot. FACT. The Shooter is at fault since he didn't follow procedure. FACT.

Facts are not points of view, Johnny.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Didn't say you are uneducated, just that you didn't read the article which is true because you didn't know the circumstances of the shooting. Not sure where this 'uneducated' business has come from, I can only assume it's a Freudian slip on your part.

It's not about opinions, it's about facts. a police officer was shot nine times because of another police officer's incompetence. FACT. The police officer that fired his gun was never in danger from the officer he shot. FACT. The Shooter is at fault since he didn't follow procedure. FACT.

Facts are not points of view, Johnny.

I agree, you do assume way before you know the actual truth from every poster in here. It's not a great quality. Maybe re education is something too consider before your next post of nonsense?

[Johnnyuk123]

Dezzy please read your last 50 posts and beyond in here. I rest my case.

[Johnnyuk123]

Once in a while it's nice to say... hi, how are you. Have you had a nice day? Well done etc.. Simple uneducated stuff that helps people to warm to you etc...

[Tom4784]

Messy.

[Ammi]

..there are a few things that I find disturbing with this..obviously as has been said, it's that there was no assessing of the situation, the car doors were closed and the windows blackened so there was no evidence of any threat because nothing inside the car could be seen...no shots had to be fired, he could have held back and kept himself safe and only advanced if a threat came from inside the car...also, I think that it's good and right, the level of compensation from the state that Jacob Grant got but what if the shots hadn't hit him and hit one of the people who were surrendering....(and this must be true that they indeed were because it's what Jacob has said..)...it would be no less an 'unlawful shooting' imo but because they had been involved in criminal activities, I think that's what they (and the incident..)..would have been judged on, that they were 'criminals anyway' so the shots were 'understandable'....I just can't see it being judged in the same way and feel that the compensation was awarded in the extent because it was another police officer....


..another thing that I find worrying is as Girth has said, Greg Brachle was not a rookie cop, he was a Lieutenant and very experienced but the 'hysteria' in his voice is very evident...the Albuquerque Police Department have listed some things that they will enforce because of this they have said and yet, they were all things that were enforced anyway so far as I can see...I mean they would all be pretty 'standard' things that would be expected from a police officer and especially one who carries a loaded gun....so maybe there are huge flaws in (some..)..police departments in general..?....hmmmmm...interesting that there was rioting in the streets in 2014 because of the amount of 'shoot to kills' that had been employed by this police department, so something that has obviously been noted and caused concern...

[lostalex]

It's a shame the tax payers of New Mexico have to foot the bill to pay compensation to this poor guy that got shot, instead of the incompetent cop who did it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It's a shame the tax payers of New Mexico have to foot the bill to pay compensation to this poor guy that got shot, instead of the incompetent cop who did it.

How much money do you expect the Incompetent Cop to have?

[GiRTh]

NYPD Officer Stripped of Gun and Badge After Arresting On-Duty Mailman

The NYPD’s recent arrest of an on-duty mailman who had apparently committed no crime was so revolting that not even the NYPD could stand behind it. Lieutenant Luis Machado, who oversaw the arrest, was stripped of his gun and badge and placed on modified duty, the New York Daily News reports today.

NYPD Cops Cuff On-Duty Mailman for Yelling at Them While He Delivered Mail

According to Glenn Grays, the postal worker who was cuffed, the officers approached him after he shouted at them for nearly hitting his truck with their car. A video of the ensuing scuffle and arrest circulated widely earlier this month.

According to the News, Grays was charged solely with resisting arrest, a favorite catch-22 tactic of combative cops everywhere. If your only crime is resisting the officer who’s trying to arrest you, what were you being arrested for in the first place?

All of the officers involved were removed from the unit in which they worked, and the NYPD Internal Affairs is investigating the incident, the News reports.

LINK

Another story of bungling police. Thankfully this time no one was killed.

The postman yelled at an unmarked police car that nearly hit his van so the officers backed up and arrested him. You really cannot make this stuff up.

[GiRTh]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2584376

Another link to the story.

Astonishing quote from head of Police Benevolant association Patrick Lynch - “No one ever has the right to resist arrest,” Lynch continued. “Compliance is not optional.”

[waterhog]

makes you thankful our police don't have guns. omg shocking.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by waterhog

makes you thankful our police don't have guns. omg shocking.

Thank God for video evidence or who knows what might have happened.

[kirklancaster]

As with other subjects - ALL the evidence in the world is not enough to convince some people.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

As with other subjects - ALL the evidence in the world is not enough to convince some people.

Absolutely true. A further fact, the arrested postman Glen Grays is married to a police officer so I'd assume he knew his rights and how to act around police officers.

EDIt: Sorry engaged to a Police Officer.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/wo...him-on-the-job

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

How much money do you expect the Incompetent Cop to have?

i expect him to make hundreds of thousands of dollars in his lifetime, and he should pay it all to the guy he shot.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i expect him to make hundreds of thousands of dollars in his lifetime, and he should pay it all to the guy he shot.

If his really got that amount of money then go for it I say.

[Northern Monkey]

This could be from a Police Academy movie.What a mess.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

This could be from a Police Academy movie.What a mess.

considering the pay and risks do you really think any police force is attracting the best and brightest that society has to offer?

[LeatherTrumpet]

*waits for a positive police story..

*waits for those who constantly criticise to call an alternative number to 999 or 911 when they really need to

*basically waits a long time

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

*waits for a positive police story..

*waits for those who constantly criticise to call an alternative number to 999 or 911 when they really need to

*basically waits a long time

*waits for LT to stop tromboning any man in a police uniform*

*The oceans dry up, the world turns to a dry husk, life slowly but surely dies out on Planet Earth. The sun begins expanding, engulfing the solar system in fire, before eventually dying and leaving nothing but blackness.*

*LT continues his furious quest in the cold depths of space*

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

*waits for LT to stop tromboning any man in a police uniform*

*The oceans dry up, the world turns to a dry husk, life slowly but surely dies out on Planet Earth. The sun begins expanding, engulfing the solar system in fire, before eventually dying and leaving nothing but blackness.*

*LT continues his furious quest in the cold depths of space*

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

*waits for a positive police story..

*waits for those who constantly criticise to call an alternative number to 999 or 911 when they really need to

*basically waits a long time

You will be waiting a long time for, 'policeman does his job well' as that is the standard, in all professions there will be incompetents the police are not infallible, except when they eff up it's not just a misplaced order or a missed deadline..someone is actually dead.
That cannot be ignored.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You will be waiting a long time for, 'policeman does his job well' as that is the standard, in all professions there will be incompetents the police are not infallible, except when they eff up it's not just a misplaced order or a missed deadline..someone is actually dead.
That cannot be ignored.

that is the game they are in and should be taken into account before taking swipes at the toughest profession

We must support and defend the police here and in the USA

[Tom4784]

Someone doing their job properly shouldn't be news, the fact that you think a Police Officer being competent at his job should be news shows how bad the situation is in America atm.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is the game they are in and should be taken into account before taking swipes at the toughest profession

We must support and defend the police here and in the USA

Blindly? Yes it's a tough job but equally it's a job that comes with alot of power over people and you know what wise old Uncle Ben said about that