[waterhog]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Or should we hear them and challenge them if we disagree?
So no more controversial comedy after 9pm incase somebody gets offended?
I thought the whole idea behind BB was that if we don't like a housemate for whatever reason be it their views or personality or whatever then we get to vote them out?
People should not be forcefully ejected imo because of their opinions.The world would be very boring if we all like robots thought exactly the same way.
BB ejecting people and hiding their conversations is straight up censorship.Should this apply to all genres of television and media?
If not then don't censor BB in this way.
They are treating the viewers like special snowflakes who need to be in safe spaces and can't handle an opposing opinion.

I agreeand this could not happen if BB was like how it started ie on 24-7 available to all. it is turning ito a show of manipulation.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Robodog

There have been death camps all over the world, where people of all faiths, races, religions, and beliefs have been killed and abused - including during world war 2

What did CB say about Jews specifically?

He Sold the Story to The Sun
to get some Cash in, today

His Evil Death Camp Joke was at that Jewish Celeb Women

That then goes around the World
No Joke

[arista]

"we get to vote them out?
People should not be forcefully ejected imo because of their opinions."

Wrong C. B. Attacked the Jews


Another Example of that was Ken Livingstone
who had a show on LBC.
he said something against Jews in some way
LBC SACKED him fast

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by RoboCop

I'll be sure to bring along a steel-reinforced baggie for your titanium turds.

Ha. You will need it. They have an insane density, like nibbler's turds from futurama

[Withano]

I think it would be interesting to watch an anything goes/ no rules apply Big Brother.. But then again these people are being hired. Nobody should be able to insult a community, any community and be payed 150k for doing so. I don't think it would work on Civilian BB either because a lot of people purposely support the controversial characters because they mistake their cuntishness for some weird form of entertainment.

So no really, not for BB. Theres a line somewhere, BB needs to make this line clearer and more consistent but crossing it should equate ejection regardless of how much of a talking point / national treasure the offender is.

[Withano]

Stating an opinion is fine. It has happened hundreds of times throughout this series already

What Biggins said about bisexuality can not be described as an opinion because he is simply incorrect. Some things do not require an opinion, some things require an education.

If you have an opinion that a fact is untrue, then you're an idiot, if your stupidness has potential to insult a community, you should get a warning. If you continue to insult a community, any community, you get ejected. Seems like fair rules to me.

[camertone]

Originally Posted by shella

really you are going to use that card .........how can you tell he is a racist i could call you a racist ......oh ....wait........i don't know you ........do you get my point?

it was a simple answer to a simple question about the show, not intended for any housemate particular.. so .. oh wait.. you are missing the whole point..

as it comes to cb, i totally agree with bb's decision..

[camertone]

Originally Posted by Withano

Stating an opinion is fine. It has happened hundreds of times throughout this series already

What Biggins said about bisexuality can not be described as an opinion because he is simply incorrect. Some things do not require an opinion, some things require an education.

If you have an opinion that a fact is untrue, then you're an idiot, if your stupidness has potential to insult a community, you should get a warning. If you continue to insult a community, any community, you get ejected. Seems like fair rules to me.

well said..

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Withano

Stating an opinion is fine. It has happened hundreds of times throughout this series already

What Biggins said about bisexuality can not be described as an opinion because he is simply incorrect. Some things do not require an opinion, some things require an education.

If you have an opinion that a fact is untrue, then you're an idiot, if your stupidness has potential to insult a community, you should get a warning. If you continue to insult a community, any community, you get ejected. Seems like fair rules to me.

You forgot to add that is just your opinion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Stating an opinion is fine. It has happened hundreds of times throughout this series already

What Biggins said about bisexuality can not be described as an opinion because he is simply incorrect. Some things do not require an opinion, some things require an education.

If you have an opinion that a fact is untrue, then you're an idiot, if your stupidness has potential to insult a community, you should get a warning. If you continue to insult a community, any community, you get ejected. Seems like fair rules to me.

By the same token this is incorrect.

If someone has an opinion that is factually incorrect they are ignorant to those facts, as in they are not aware of them.

Opinions however are subjective and do not have to be based on facts.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

By the same token this is incorrect.

If someone has an opinion that is factually incorrect they are ignorant to those facts, as in they are not aware of them.

Opinions however are subjective and do not have to be based on facts.

Making an opinion not based on facts makes you as stupid as anybody who learns and disregards them.
Either way his "opinions" were simply ill-informed and could cause offence to a community just because of his ignorance. Warning warranted.
If we're led to believe he could have caused offence three or more times, ejection warranted.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think it would be interesting to watch an anything goes/ no rules apply Big Brother.. But then again these people are being hired. Nobody should be able to insult a community, any community and be payed 150k for doing so. I don't think it would work on Civilian BB either because a lot of people purposely support the controversial characters because they mistake their cuntishness for some weird form of entertainment.

So no really, not for BB. Theres a line somewhere, BB needs to make this line clearer and more consistent but crossing it should equate ejection regardless of how much of a talking point / national treasure the offender is.

It kinda used to be like that until CBB5 came along. That's one thing I hate about BB nowadays is how PC its become. Housemates used to be able to get away with much more a decade ago compared to nowadays. Look at a series like BB6 for example, which aired in 2005, if that aired a decade later in 2015 it probably would've caused a bigger race row than CBB5.

These days you can't say anything without the Ofcom brigade flipping a lid and complaining. I mean we even have warnings before the show starts ffs. And that doesn't just apply to controversial comments but also other things like nudity, sexual scenes and bullying.

[BB247]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Or should we hear them and challenge them if we disagree?
So no more controversial comedy after 9pm incase somebody gets offended?
I thought the whole idea behind BB was that if we don't like a housemate for whatever reason be it their views or personality or whatever then we get to vote them out?
People should not be forcefully ejected imo because of their opinions.The world would be very boring if we all like robots thought exactly the same way.
BB ejecting people and hiding their conversations is straight up censorship.Should this apply to all genres of television and media?
If not then don't censor BB in this way.
They are treating the viewers like special snowflakes who need to be in safe spaces and can't handle an opposing opinion.

Exactly it's a adult show and we can make or own mind up BB have turned into NAZI'S, Ooops sorry I meant polictically correct pussies.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Making an opinion not based on facts makes you as stupid as anybody who learns and disregards them.
Either way his "opinions" were simply ill-informed and could cause offence to a community just because of his ignorance. Warning warranted.
If we're led to believe he could have caused offence three or more times, ejection warranted.

Do you not think spitting in someone's food could cause gross offence?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Or should we hear them and challenge them if we disagree?
So no more controversial comedy after 9pm incase somebody gets offended?
I thought the whole idea behind BB was that if we don't like a housemate for whatever reason be it their views or personality or whatever then we get to vote them out?
People should not be forcefully ejected imo because of their opinions.The world would be very boring if we all like robots thought exactly the same way.
BB ejecting people and hiding their conversations is straight up censorship.Should this apply to all genres of television and media?
If not then don't censor BB in this way.
They are treating the viewers like special snowflakes who need to be in safe spaces and can't handle an opposing opinion.

Totally agree, far too much PC

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Do you not think spitting in someone's food could cause gross offence?

The worst thing this series but she's still in there

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Do you not think spitting in someone's food could cause gross offence?

A bit irrelevant considering the topic.. did you read the OP? But yes, I can see how that could cause offence to other people and evidently so did the production team as they put her on a final warning, which is presumably different to just giving her a warning.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

A bit irrelevant considering the topic.. did you read the OP? But yes, I can see how that could cause offence to other people and evidently so did the production team as they put her on a final warning, which is presumably different to just giving her a warning.

You don't agree she should be out then? And you still don't agree that spitting in food is worse than slagging bisexuals off?

Just checkin'.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You don't agree she should be out then? And you still don't agree that spitting in food is worse than slagging bisexuals off?

Just checkin'.

I think repeatedly causing offence to at least 2 different communities in the space of a week is worse than spitting in someones food and evidently so does the production team. If Bear was to act differently, then it would be a different story, but Bear did not care, whereas many victims of Biggins "opinions" did care. Perhaps thats why Marnie wasn't punished (at least onscreen), her victim didn't care much either.

[delta]

It's a dichotomy, we are asking for all 'of them' yet if they hide their true selves we jump up and down and call them out for being underhand and for playing a game.


I would take the 'Elvis' view on this, "Sir, I am an artist who entertains and I would rather not comment on social or political events, a lot of my fans come from all kinds of different persuasions and I don't want to alienate andy of them" or words to that effect.

In short, this kind of program could kill your career stone dead.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think repeatedly causing offence to at least 2 different communities in the space of a week is worse than spitting in someones food and evidently so does the production team. If Bear was to act differently, then it would be a different story, but Bear did not care, whereas many victims of Biggins "opinions" did care. Perhaps thats why Marnie wasn't punished (at least onscreen), her victim didn't care much either.

And there we have it.

We have now reached a point in civilisation where some people think that expressing your opinions about certain kinds of people is worse than physically assaulting someone.

I really despair.

[BB247]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

And there we have it.

We have now reached a point in civilisation where some people think that expressing your opinions about certain kinds of people is worse than physically assaulting someone.

I really despair.

True talk, If you spat at someone or in someones food and they called the police you could get arrested for assult.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

And there we have it.

We have now reached a point in civilisation where some people think that expressing your opinions about certain kinds of people is worse than physically assaulting someone.

I really despair.

Because you was unaware that words could cause offence before now?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Because you was unaware that words could cause offence before now?

Offence is taken, not given.

Let's place this in the outside world for a second. If I went in a boozer and said that I thought bisexuals were really gay and some of them brought aids over then I might offend some people but I sure as **** wouldn't be arrested.

Now what do you think might happen if I walked in the same boozer and spat on someone?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Offence is taken, not given.

Let's place this in the outside world for a second. If I went in a boozer and said that I thought bisexuals were really gay and some of them brought aids over then I might offend some people but I sure as **** wouldn't be arrested.

Now what do you think might happen if I walked in the same boozer and spat on someone?

I think you're presuming this show is all about your opinions.. Your hierarchy of what is offensive isn't BBs guides to punishments, the sooner you learn this, the sooner you can move on. The victim of Marnie was not offended (no punishment), the victim of Aubrey was not offended (final warning), plenty of victims of Biggins were offended (at least three warnings, aka ejection). Your cry for 'what offends me the most' is irrelevant but its kinda cute that you disagree. see: Spotlight effect.