[Liberty4eva]

Well...do you?

[lewis111]

Region is the cause for so so many wars through out history so I don't believe religion as a whole is peaceful
It just so happens that we are living in a time where a small percentage of Muslims are the bad ones

And the way a lot of people interprete the quaran isn't very peaceful either

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lewis111

Region is the cause for so so many wars through out history so I don't believe religion as a whole is peaceful
It just so happens that we are living in a time where a small percentage of Muslims are the bad ones

And the way a lot of people interprete the quaran isn't very peaceful either

Blaming religion is simplistic drivel. The world has always been at war.

[Vicky.]

Generally yes. Religion (to me anyway) just gives hope to many, and hope is never a bad thing. I am not religious in the slightest and think its all fairy stories, but if it makes large numbers of people happy and feel safe, who am I to judge?

I do not believe a minority of people using Islam as an excuse to do terrible things are representative of the religion itself, same as I don't blame all Catholics for the actions of the IRA and such.

These nutjobs will always do terrible things and find someone/something to blame it on.

[Pete.]

Yes

It's reductive for someone to see how Islam is portrayed in the media and not recognise that extremists are a minority bunch of crazies who do not reflect the core virtues of Islam anyway? As Vicky said the IRA did not give Catholics a reputation of trigger happy bombers so why should normal muslims with IS and the like?

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Yes

It's reductive for someone to see how Islam is portrayed in the media and not recognise that extremists are a minority bunch of crazies who do not reflect the core virtues of Islam anyway? As Vicky said the IRA did not give Catholics a reputation of trigger happy bombers so why should normal muslims with IS and the like?

This

And the KKK do not represent Christianity!

[Tom4784]

It's no more or less violent than any other religion. The Bible has plenty of passages that preach violence yet we don't demonise it since we know that people pick and choose parts of the Bible to pay attention to. Same goes for the Quran.

Terrorist organisations only use Islam as a method of control and recruitment. When it comes down to it, IS is as much as an islamic group as Britain First.

[Maru]

I confess I chose the cop out option only because I really don't know enough about Islam to draw any reasonable conclusions.

Briefly speaking on the subject, I think Christianity is meant to teach about peaceful coexistent but then it has been used to justify horrible acts and wars such as Islam has been.

I'd like to believe that Islam is a peaceful religion as well, although, I have heard from various others that quotes may exist in the Quran that may indicate the latter (an eye for an eye is the example I recall the most), but then I also feel that the bible opened up many doors in it's own texts to empowering hate groups towards various segments of the population throughout history.

At the end of the day though I feel that many texts, philosophy, policy or law could be twisted or radicalized to achieve dishonorable goals.

So I guess ultimately my thought is probably yes, but I voted don't know because it felt the most correct and that to vote yes would be like saying I'm educated on the matter when I most definitely am not.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Yes

It's reductive for someone to see how Islam is portrayed in the media and not recognise that extremists are a minority bunch of crazies who do not reflect the core virtues of Islam anyway? As Vicky said the IRA did not give Catholics a reputation of trigger happy bombers so why should normal muslims with IS and the like?

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's no more or less violent than any other religion. The Bible has plenty of passages that preach violence yet we don't demonise it since we know that people pick and choose parts of the Bible to pay attention to. Same goes for the Quran.

Terrorist organisations only use Islam as a method of control and recruitment. When it comes down to it, IS is as much as an islamic group as Britain First.

This. Religions aren't violent, people are.

[the truth]

Islam is a newer religion but its more concerned with the quran and the old testament that the the the revelations in the enlightened new testament. New testament is more revolutionary , with its turn the other cheek, repentance, forgiveness, redemption, do not rush to judge others. Im a new testament type of person, less harsh I believe in the concepts of redemption, repentance, forgiveness etc Though its vital to remember to earn penance and forgiveness one must first repent and stop sinning. I suggest the Mission is a good movie to understand this concept. Some worship Jesus, some dont. Whether he was who he claimed to be or whether he was a fiction, the man represented a lot of great ideals and beliefs that I am and billions of others choose to follow. As far as Im concerned his influence on the world is profoundly good. The fact there are many who would pervert his words and deeds for their own ends, is not a reflection of Jesus but on those evil doers. In the hands of the wrong people it can be dangerous and we must always be vigilant of this.

[Ellen]

Its not Religion, most Religions promote peace. Its some people who use Religion as an excuse for for doing bad things.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Its not Religion, most Religions promote peace. Its some people who use Religion as an excuse for for doing bad things.

^^^This

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Its not Religion, most Religions promote peace. Its some people who use Religion as an excuse for for doing bad things.

true. people forget the billions of funds raised by Christianity especially. the feed the starving, the worldwide missionary work that helps 100s of millions.

[Crimson Dynamo]

no, its an unreformed vile superstition and we should eradicate every part of it from this country.

It has plenty of interpretation, like all book based cults, to create death


Ultimately if you believe that there is someone greater than the law who is in charge you can justify anything and just say "well alan told me to do it"

Peaceful?

er just look at the evidence

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Well...do you?

Yes many are peaceful
but the few that are Extreme
hide within them

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Its not Religion, most Religions promote peace. Its some people who use Religion as an excuse for for doing bad things.

This for me too, well stated.

[arista]

wrong Dezzy

Isis cut the head off
from the British hostage
shown online.


Dezzy you are so wrong

[Crimson Dynamo]

during both world wars most germans were peaceful..

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

during both world wars most germans were peaceful..

Except the Gas Rooms
WW2 Evil Germans sent
the Jews were sent to have a shower -- naked

[Livia]

I think 10% of Islam is violent and 90% hide their complacency with protestations of peace.

[Livia]

Ninastar introduced me to Brigitte Gabriel and she's posted this clip before, but it's really worth posting it again.

Youtube video

[the truth]

there is simply no way we can ignore the fact there is a serious problem within Islam, to use political correctness to brush it off as a tiny minority is extremely dangerous....34000 innocents were killed last year by radical jihadists last year, that figure is rising. even if its just 10% thats still 120 million radicals. donald trumps suggestions are way over the top, but on the other hand angela merkels strategy is just as insane and dangerous at the other end of the spectrum

[bots]

How can any religion be peaceful when its aims are to convert 'heathens' to it. If it were peaceful, it would have no designs on expansionism.

While it can be said that the majority in a religion are peaceful, that means squat when that religion encompasses millions of people, because the simple fact is, many, many followers of that religion want to convert the heathens by any means, and their religion having expansionist aims freely condones that behaviour.

In this day and age it is ridiculous that any religion should be allowed to freely practice conversion. Remove that from them, and nutters have no longer any pretext to attach violence to religion.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Generally yes. Religion (to me anyway) just gives hope to many, and hope is never a bad thing. I am not religious in the slightest and think its all fairy stories, but if it makes large numbers of people happy and feel safe, who am I to judge?

I do not believe a minority of people using Islam as an excuse to do terrible things are representative of the religion itself, same as I don't blame all Catholics for the actions of the IRA and such.

These nutjobs will always do terrible things and find someone/something to blame it on.

Originally Posted by Pete.

Yes

It's reductive for someone to see how Islam is portrayed in the media and not recognise that extremists are a minority bunch of crazies who do not reflect the core virtues of Islam anyway? As Vicky said the IRA did not give Catholics a reputation of trigger happy bombers so why should normal muslims with IS and the like?

imo the IRA is not comparable here when you're talking about using Religion as a war tool. This was not why the IRA was formed, the IRA was formed because Ireland was taken over by Britain and then split in two and the IRA were fighting for the country back, not because they were trying to convert anyone to Catholicism or were doing it in the name of Catholicism, it really annoys me when British people try to pass it off as some sort of religious war. Yes most of the "Republicans" in the North are/were Catholics but that's just because Catholicism was the predominant Irish religion. There were actually Protestant members of the IRA too.

I'm not defending the IRA here btw especially in later years there was no going back but I hate the fact that alot of times British people are under the impression that the North was some sort of Religious war where the Catholics are trying to convert the Protestants or something when in Reality it was always a fight for our country back that you lot started by the way by invading us and beating our language out of us, etc etc

If it weren't for the IRA or the earlier version of it the whole of Ireland would still be part of Britain

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just ask any muslim child what the penalty for Apostasy is