[Wizard.]

Before the 18th winner of Big Brother is crowned, let's see who you think should have won over their 1st place rivals?

[DouglasS]

Well BB3 is the obvious one, Danielle [BB3] was compeltely robbed which is why they implemented the jury and changed the game to prevent bitter juries. Almost every contestant walked out saying they wanted Danielle to win [Including Roddy LOL], she is the best female player of all times and I truly believe she would have got a 9-0 vote.

Even though Jordan was more likable, Natalie definitely played the Big Brother game better than her [BB11]

Porsche definitely over Rachel, Rachel got lucky on about 3 twists that were implemented in the game that directly benefited just her, as well as production intervening to help the vets [Rachel,Brendon,Jordan,Jeff]. Had she not had so much in-game help, I reckon Kalia would have probably won]

Steve really did nothing in BB17 and was totally undeserved imo [Liz didn't do much, but was in an alliance that basically controlled the game, even if she was one of the lesser players of that alliance] .


Personally wise I'd have preferred Gina-Marie to beat Andy, my least favourite Big Brother contestant ever. But he played a flawless game, but just said a lot of bigoted nasty things

The biggest ones therefore are Danielle, Natalie, Porsche, Liz
Lisa, Jordan, Rachel and Steve didn't deserve the win based on gameplay imo.

[Pete.]

Daniele, Natalie, Lane, Liz

(And I feel like Ivette and Dan had better games in their seasons but I didn't really care that they came runners up so)

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Daniele, Natalie, Lane, Liz

(And I feel like Ivette and Dan had better games in their seasons but I didn't really care that they came runners up so)

Maggie had a flawless game and ran that whole alliance, Ivette was terrible, she was so up and down and kept almost destroying her alliance with James/her tantrums with April. Maggie kept all of the friendship in check and is the only reason that alliance managed to stay together. Everyone looked up to Maggie and she herself played a flawless game, theres no way Ivette played a better game. Ivette was very stupid, which is why the others kept Ivette until the end [evicting others instead], although the sov 6 all wanted Maggie out for the whole duration. Maggie also was the reason behind the downfall of the sov 6.

I agree with Dan actually though

[DouglasS]

I think people are voting personally instead of game-wise. Theres no way Cody deserved to beat Derrick aha [and I hated Derrick]. I don't think Cody made a single move in the game, Derrick controlled that game from week 2 and manipulated everyone. Cody was one of the worst players to ever play [as was Victoria], which is why Derrick kept them around to solely manipulate them into doing anything he wanted and which is why he took them both to F3. This is why Big Brother 16 was a pretty dull season, it was completely predictable as Derrick had full reign of the house the entire stay, much like Redemption Island season of Survivor with Rob [It'd be like saying Natalie deserved to beat Rob aha].

[Cal.]

Never seen it but I heard Danielle would have won if all the jury members hadn't watched her bitching about them on the show.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Maggie had a flawless game and ran that whole alliance, Ivette was terrible, she was so up and down and kept almost destroying her alliance with James/her tantrums with April. Maggie kept all of the friendship in check and is the only reason that alliance managed to stay together. Everyone looked up to Maggie and she herself played a flawless game, theres no way Ivette played a better game. Ivette was very stupid, which is why the others kept Ivette until the end [evicting others instead], although the sov 6 all wanted Maggie out for the whole duration. Maggie also was the reason behind the downfall of the sov 6.

I agree with Dan actually though

I completely agree that Ivette ****ed it up for herself, mainly by turning Rachel against her & I was more than happy for Maggie to win but I still feel like Ivette was more hardcore in her game than Maggie ever was. It was right for Maggie to win on personality though but she was a lowkey floater. Then again when I watched BB6 I was so fixated on Janelle and her alliance that I didn't really pay much attention to the friendship.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Never seen it but I heard Danielle would have won if all the jury members hadn't watched her bitching about them on the show.

no she wouldn't have.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

no she wouldn't have.

I really do think she would have aced it.
Amy walked out saying Danielle was her favourite, Roddy said he got on almost best with Danielle and wanted her to win. As did Gerry.. I think almost all of them did. Marcellas obviously felt super close to Dani, had he not seen her DR's i think he would have given it to her

Lori said she was closest to Danielle also.

Chiara seemed to hate Lisa randomly later and wanted her out, she also used to go to Danielle to talk

Almost all the cast loved Dani

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I really do think she would have aced it.
Amy walked out saying Danielle was her favourite, Roddy said he got on almost best with Danielle and wanted her to win. As did Gerry.. I think almost all of them did.

She definitely wouldn't have aced it. Lisa already has three votes on lock with Eric/Chiara/Roddy. She has Marcellas after his boot and probably Amy too by extension. She has Tonya and Lori because of early season stuff. I could see her even possibly having Josh too?

Danielle's good and all but everyone liked Lisa and she's someone that she really shouldn't have let get as far as she did. Lisa's not a Derrick-level mastermind but she was very adaptable and her game got better each week, resulting in her somehow surviving the F5 and F4 evictions despite being the fairly obvious boot (especially at F4, taking Amy out is one of the dumbest moves nobody ever talks about.) Lisa knew her strengths and fostered an image of herself as someone people would be willing to give half a million dollars to without even really having a deep connection with half of the jury.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I also think the idea of a bitter jury is a load of **** anyway. If someone like Danielle or Dan handpicks the jury and still loses in an overwhelming fashion, that reflects entirely on them, not on the jury.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Personallyme, *I* would have voted for Daniele, Natalie, Porsche, and Liz based on gameplay but that's with me having more foresight than the jurors probably did and me liking all of them more than their opponents.

[JerseyWins]

Natalie & Dan for sure.

Daniele / Ryan / maybe Porsche / maybe Liz are a bit debatable as well for me.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I think Dani deserved to win over Lisa, but I still like Lisa as well as a winner

I also think Dani should have beaten Dick, everyone says he carried her but she won critical comps that kept them safe.

Natalie 100% deserved to win over Jordan, this is probably one of few I cant stomach winning, Natalie was the better option to win

I also question Rachels win with the whole rigging at final 6 and Pandoras Box, altough Porsche was not the best player, her road to the final 2 was less rigged then Rachel who was lucky Production was rigging a return win.

I also think Dan deserved to win over Ian

I think Nicole would have been a good winner as well if she beat Will. but I preferred Will winning

But these are just my views. I agree with the other results. I liked Alison but Jun was better, cant remember 1 or 5. Maggie was a cold hearted bitch but Ivette was awful, I try to forget season 7. I actually think Adam played some what a reasonable game, he was not as dumb as people make out. I liked Memphis as well but think Dan was more deserving. Season 12, dont really care. Andy deserved to win 15, so did Derrick with 16. And Steve deserved to win over Liz who did nothing but open her legs all summer.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Before the 18th winner of Big Brother is crowned, let's see who you think should have won over their 1st place rivals?

[Raph]

Went for three:

1) Dan instead of Ian
2) Danielle instead of Lisa
3) Natalie instead of Jordan

But in general actually, of the final 2, the deserving person has almost always won

[LukeB]

Dr will - deserving winner
Lisa - Danielle should have won
Jun - rightfully won
Drew - rightfully won
Maggie - rightfully won
Boogie - not sure
Evil dick - Daniele should have won not because evil dick is scum its because daniele played it better imo and america is the reason why dick made it far
Ryan - not sure
Dan - rightfully won
Jordan - i'm actually glad she won
Hayden - rightfully won
Rachel - rightfully won
Ian - dan should have won
Andy - eeek awful final 2 of all time but andy rightfully won
Derrick - Cody should have won
Steve - not sure

[Macie Lightfoot]

why should Cody have won? he didn't even play his own game.

[Raph]

I think Derrick definitely deserved the win, especially after Cody chose not to take Victoria with him. Having said that, apart from that final move, Cody played an impeccable social game - everyone loved him.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It was good except for the fact that he ended up betraying just about every single person who loved him and they ended up feeling most hurt by him. It was one betrayal after another, so any social game he had was kinda negated by how he handled people as they were evicted. He just took out Derrick's adversaries bc Derrick told him to, and then he ignored them bc Derrick told him too all while Derrick was grooming them to be his jury votes.

[LemonJam]

Daniele Donato, Natalie, Porsche and Liz.

I love Danielle but she is not as good a player as she's made out to be.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Liz easily deserved to win over steve

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

Daniele Donato, Natalie, Porsche and Liz.

I love Danielle but she is not as good a player as she's made out to be.

mhmm, Dick/Jordan/Rachel's victories are all super sketchy, and Liz played a good game without even knowing it and thus couldn't justify herself Kelsey suffered the same fate in BBCan unfortunately.

[EspeonBB]

Dan's social game was awful in BB14. He needlessly backstabbed everyone and deservedly lost imo

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah, Dan pretty much put on a clinic how to not manage your jury. Ew, everything about him in BB14 was so creepy, he was way too meta and more concerned about Making Good TV (Sabrina Abbate you are NOT) and was just a shell of a human being. As much flak as I give BB14 for having a terrible cast and the coaches twist being a joke, the real kicker was that the season was dictated by Dan's views as to what made good TV, since that actually made the season terrible. Ian transparently taking credit for things Dan did and winning in a landslide almost makes it worth the price of admission but not really since Ian kinda sucks too.