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06-10-2016, 11:48 AM | #1 | |||
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YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (WKBN) – An attorney was removed from court and taken into custody after a judge declared her in contempt for refusing to take off a Black Lives Matter pin. Youngstown Municipal Court Judge Robert Milich said Attorney Andrea Burton was in contempt of court for refusing to remove the pin in his courtroom as instructed. Burton was sentenced to five days in jail, but she has been released on a stay while an appeal is underway. Burton will stay out of jail during the appeals process as long as she obeys Milich’s order not to wear items that make a political statement in court. If she loses her appeal, she will have to serve the five days in jail. Milich said his opinions have nothing to do with his decision. “A judge doesn’t support either side,” he said. “A judge is objective and tries to make sure everyone has an opportunity to have a fair hearing, and it was a situation where it was just in violation of the law,” he said. http://wkbn.com/2016/07/22/attorney-...matter-button/ |
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06-10-2016, 11:50 AM | #2 | |||
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Well I guess if no pins like this are allowed at all then that's fine but I hope they're not being selective about which are and which aren't
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06-10-2016, 12:03 PM | #3 | |||
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Makes sense to be fair, a courtroom is no place for political statements.
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06-10-2016, 12:04 PM | #4 | ||
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Doesn't matter what the badge was tbh, if it was one with a needle/pin it needs to go. Could have read 'I am willing to lick the judges arsehole' and she still would have had to take it off.
Edit. I somehow read this as a safety concern...which is surely how it would have been seen rather than a political thing?! When I went to court I had everything that could possibly be used as a weapon removed. You could do damage with a badge :S
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06-10-2016, 01:24 PM | #5 | |||
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Attorney and community activist Kim Akins said she is worried about what happened. “No one wearing an American flag button, no one wearing a crucifix or a Star of David would be removed, so why this particular statement bothered him so much is bothersome,” she said. The judge said his ruling is based on Supreme Court case law in which a judge can prohibit symbolic political expression in courtrooms, even if it’s not disruptive. “There’s a difference between a flag, a pin from your church or the Eagles and having a pin that’s on a political issue,” Milich said. So a patriotic or religious pin for example would have been fine. I don't see the point in needing her to remove it, personally.
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06-10-2016, 01:27 PM | #6 | |||
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06-10-2016, 01:28 PM | #7 | |||
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06-10-2016, 01:34 PM | #9 | |||
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Yes it is, religions are pretty political, especially in the States
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06-10-2016, 01:39 PM | #10 | |||
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I agree that ridiculous religious attire should also be banned |
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06-10-2016, 01:40 PM | #11 | |||
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I agree it should be removed, the only issue in the courtroom should be the case being heard. I feel sorry for the guy whose day in court was compromised. Fine have her removed but the jail term? That's excessive :/
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06-10-2016, 01:41 PM | #12 | |||
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06-10-2016, 01:57 PM | #13 | |||
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It refers to Black Lives Matter, obviously
If there's no set rule (which there isn't) then that's why I think it shouldn't have been an issue. If the US justice system wants to implement a rule that says BLM badges can't be worn, or no badges can be worn, then that's a different scenario. She was jailed without breaking the law and there's also questions over whether her civil rights have been violated. It's all a bit much over a badge.
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06-10-2016, 02:00 PM | #14 | |||
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Attorneys (barristers in this country) are not allowed to make a personal political statement in court. Make it outside... but not inside. Follow the rules or find another job.
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06-10-2016, 02:01 PM | #15 | |||
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Its a disgusting "badge" for any lawyer to wear and in the court the judge rules and he rightly told her to do one |
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06-10-2016, 02:01 PM | #16 | |||
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06-10-2016, 02:01 PM | #17 | |||
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You wouldn't expect it to be acceptable if a lawyer wore a badge in court saying sponsored by walmart or whatever, and this is pretty much saying the same thing. its giving prominence to something that is not relevant to the case. Surely, thats whats important.
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06-10-2016, 02:07 PM | #18 | ||
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NO political symbols in court. This has nothing to do with religion or with which team you support. Unless you want the KKK wearing their badges in court. Last edited by Livia; 06-10-2016 at 02:10 PM. |
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06-10-2016, 02:21 PM | #20 | |||
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The contempt of court was for not removing the badge when asked, she wasn't breaking any rules or laws by wearing it in the first place. And the judge asked her to remove it based on what he wanted personally, rather than it being because a rule or law was broken. That's why her civil rights have been brought into question. I know you've said in UK courts political symbols simply aren't allowed but according to this article, that's not the case here.
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06-10-2016, 02:23 PM | #21 | ||
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Yet patriotic and Religious symbols which are just as much of a political issue in the US are allowed? That's picking and choosing.
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06-10-2016, 02:27 PM | #22 | |||
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The judge has the final say on what goes on in their court. Political symbols are not to be worn. And political symbols are NOT the same as religious and/or patriotic symbols... no matter which way you spin it.
No one's civil rights have infringed. If the an attorney supported the KKK and wore a badge to court they would also be told to remove it without infringing their civil liberties. |
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06-10-2016, 02:46 PM | #23 | |||
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Religious freedom and freedom of religious expression are legally protected in the USA....so no, they are not viewed there as political statements. And Patriotism is never going to go out of style there either. It's America people....that is who Americans are by definition.
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