[DemolitionRed]

As I am sure we can all agree religious belief does not equal inherent threat, terrorists are war mongers that have forsaken any right to claim their actions can be in the name of anything other than pathetic, inhumane worthlessness.

This article could use a little more exposure.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/20-...-against-isis/

[Brillopad]

Cynical and proud of it.

[the truth]

about as insightful as saying the moon isnt a balloon

[Cherie]

That's right, however it doesn't take away form the fact that most active terrorists at the moment are Muslim, just like back in the day not all Irish people were terrorists but most active terrorists were Irish, so I don't see the need to sweep it under the carpet

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That's right, however it doesn't take away form the fact that most active terrorists at the moment are Muslim, just like back in the day not all Irish people were terrorists but most active terrorists were Irish, so I don't see the need to sweep it under the carpet

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Most of the people affected by extremism are Muslims though. :umm2: Also Irish is a nationality, not a religion, completely different scale. There aren't billions of Irish people.

And? what difference does that make? , should I substitute Catholic for Irish would that make the analogy easier to understand? So because there are billions of Muslims some of theme can't be terrorists I don't get your point at all? Why can't we say it, we could say Irish terrorists, no one batted an eyelid

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Most of the people affected by extremism are Muslims though. Also Irish is a nationality, not a religion, completely different scale. There aren't billions of Irish people.

how many?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

about as insightful as saying the moon isnt a balloon

For all the Muslim ranting we have on this site, I thought it only pertinent to give this article more exposure.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That's right, however it doesn't take away form the fact that most active terrorists at the moment are Muslim, just like back in the day not all Irish people were terrorists but most active terrorists were Irish, so I don't see the need to sweep it under the carpet

Do you really believe Muslim terrorists news is swept under the carpet?

The reason I posted this article is because just about everything Muslims do and say against these murdering scumbags is studiously ignored by the media, but they were always anxious to give exposure to monsters like Anjem Choudary (who represents around 200 nutters) until he was locked up.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

As I am sure we can all agree religious belief does not equal inherent threat, terrorists are war mongers that have forsaken any right to claim their actions can be in the name of anything other than pathetic, inhumane worthlessness.

This article could use a little more exposure.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/20-...-against-isis/

ISIS fully believe that they are following Islam and that others are wrong. The problem with believing is a fake deity is that you can interpretate the religion any way you want

The old "well they are not real muslims" is like the true scotsman fallacy

[Nicky91]

really i didn't know this lol

[Northern Monkey]

Well Islam is a spectrum.Terrorists are on the fringes of that spectrum.They're still muslim.
It's true that muslim doesn't equal terrorist but terrorist usually equals muslim.

[arista]

Sure DR
but Extreme Isis Muslim's are the Terrorists
that matter to France and the World

[DemolitionRed]

This isn't about what ISIS is or what the Muslim faith represents; its about Muslim involvement in an effort to condemn ISIS. I know this doesn't sit well with some of you but for once can you just try to have a little understanding and compassion.

On that note, I'm going to work.

[Livia]

If you take a look at the FBI's list of most wanted terrorists you will see they're mostly "Muslim".

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists

Most people can understand that not all Muslims are terrorists but that a substantial number of terrorists are Muslim.

[Kizzy]

Yes I've seen that posted on the forum numerous times, as DR said there are literally billions of Muslims therefore if you inject some perspective it's not even relative.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

And? what difference does that make? , should I substitute Catholic for Irish would that make the analogy easier to understand? So because there are billions of Muslims some of theme can't be terrorists I don't get your point at all? Why can't we say it, we could say Irish terrorists, no one batted an eyelid

We did say Irish terrorist but what was the history behind it? If ever there is terror or destabilisation there we are.
That's not anti British or an exaggeration, it's a fact...an uncomfortable one but a fact nevertheless.

[Livia]

It's been posted numerous times because apparently it doesn't sink in. What's the percentage of those "billions of Muslims" who are sympathetic to the terrorists?

This has been posted several times too... so don't click on it if you find it tedious.

Youtube video

Like I said... not all Mulslims are terrorists but a significant number of terrorists are Muslim.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Islam and its unreformed state is wide open and always will be to extremism


Just ask any Muslim what the penalty for apostasy is

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's been posted numerous times because apparently it doesn't sink in. What's the percentage of those "billions of Muslims" who are sympathetic to the terrorists?

This has been posted several times too... so don't click on it if you find it tedious.

Youtube video

Like I said... not all Mulslims are terrorists but a significant number of terrorists are Muslim.

What an obnoxious woman, her monologue does not address the issue raised by the lady in the audience, what does it achieve?

If, and this is a big if,there were as many Muslims as could fill America hell bent on the destruction of the west then where are they? There have been over many years the odd disjointed attack that in the west has come from 'home grown' terrorists or converts.

If diplomacy is not the answer and conflict is the only recourse then that would only be viable if this 25% of which she speaks were in the same place... but they are not are they? (if they exist that is)
Those who are experiencing the affects of conflict in the concentrated areas of focus are predominantly the peaceful, how is this justified?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

This has been posted several times too... so don't click on it if you find it tedious.

Youtube video

Like I said... not all Mulslims are terrorists but a significant number of terrorists are Muslim.

Every time I see it I'm in awe of her ability to puff her trumpet for 3+ minutes and not only fail to answer the question... but not even vaguely acknowledge the question in the first place. Which was;

"My question is how can we fight an ideological war with weapons? How can we ever end this thing if you don't address it ideologically."

Angry Lady decides to imagine that this lady's main point was that most Muslims are peaceful. It wasn't. She even said my question is. She had a very valid question. The answer of course being that you cannot fight an ideology with guns and bombs. But angry ranty lady doesn't want to admit that gradual diplomacy and embracing, rather than demonising, the majority of the Muslim population is the only permanent way to fight Islamic terrorism no matter how angry you happen to feel about the situation, and so she completely dodges the question and vents. And gets a standing ovation. Don't go on a question panel if you don't want to answer questions .

[Crimson Dynamo]

As a country we should be going round and closing mosques and educating children at schools that ALL GODS do not exist and teaching them the very best scientific peer reviewed knowledge we can

Systematically tackle this cancer of superstition at the root

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Every time I see it I'm in awe of her ability to puff her trumpet for 3+ minutes and not only fail to answer the question... but not even vaguely acknowledge the question in the first place. Which was;

"My question is how can we fight an ideological war with weapons? How can we ever end this thing if you don't address it ideologically."

Angry Lady decides to imagine that this lady's main point was that most Muslims are peaceful. It wasn't. She even said my question is. She had a very valid question. The answer of course being that you cannot fight an ideology with guns and bombs. But angry ranty lady doesn't want to admit that gradual diplomacy and embracing, rather than demonising, the majority of the Muslim population is the only permanent way to fight Islamic terrorism no matter how angry you happen to feel about the situation, and so she completely dodges the question and vents. And gets a standing ovation. Don't go on a question panel if you don't want to answer questions .

memo to TS: Christmas was last year

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What an obnoxious woman, her monologue does not address the issue raised by the lady in the audience, what does it achieve?

If, and this is a big if,there were as many Muslims as could fill America hell bent on the destruction of the west then where are they? There have been over many years the odd disjointed attack that in the west has come from 'home grown' terrorists or converts.

If diplomacy is not the answer and conflict is the only recourse then that would only be viable if this 25% of which she speaks were in the same place... but they are not are they? (if they exist that is)
Those who are experiencing the affects of conflict in the concentrated areas of focus are predominantly the peaceful, how is this justified?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Every time I see it I'm in awe of her ability to puff her trumpet for 3+ minutes and not only fail to answer the question... but not even vaguely acknowledge the question in the first place. Which was;

"My question is how can we fight an ideological war with weapons? How can we ever end this thing if you don't address it ideologically."

Angry Lady decides to imagine that this lady's main point was that most Muslims are peaceful. It wasn't. She even said my question is. She had a very valid question. The answer of course being that you cannot fight an ideology with guns and bombs. But angry ranty lady doesn't want to admit that gradual diplomacy and embracing, rather than demonising, the majority of the Muslim population is the only permanent way to fight Islamic terrorism no matter how angry you happen to feel about the situation, and so she completely dodges the question and vents. And gets a standing ovation. Don't go on a question panel if you don't want to answer questions .

Frankly, I didn't expect either of you to do anything but disagree and even call her "obnoxious" (maybe find out about her background before you call her names). Her message was that the silent majority are irrelevant. Surely that was quite evident?

The Muslim woman - an American citizen - asked a loaded question in the wrong place and got an answer that she - and people who feel the same way she feels - didn't like and so pretend not to understand.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Frankly, I didn't expect either of you to do anything but disagree and even call her "obnoxious" (maybe find out about her background before you call her names). Her message was that the silent majority are irrelevant. Surely that was quite evident?

It was evident. It wasn't an answer to the question asked, though.

The Muslim woman - an American citizen - asked a loaded question in the wrong place and got an answer that she - and people who feel the same way she feels - didn't like and so pretend not to understand.

She asked the question; "My question is how can we fight an ideological war with weapons? How can we ever end this thing if you don't address it ideologically."

And got an "answer" to a completely different question, or rather, a rant about a completely separate topic.

Do you think she answered the question? Honestly?


Q: "How can you fight a global ideological issue with weapons?"

A: "THE SILENT MAJORITY ARE IRRELEVANT!!"


...'k.