[Niamh.]

What's going on with Speidi (Spencer mainly) How did they go from nominating Jamie for being mean to Jedward to crying because James J went over Jedward all in one day? Idgi, it feels like we missed a weeks worth of HLs or something? Is it all a game plan being upset or did he change it up when he heard Jedward getting boo'd or what? Thoughts?

* I still like Speidi, I just found the whole of last nights HL's really confusing

[chuff me dizzy]

If anyone think this sweet, Spiedi is them turning over a new leaf ,they are being fooled,they are every bit as evil as they always was, the doors thing with a 74 yr old woman last night proved that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

If anyone think this sweet, Spiedi is them turning over a new leaf ,they are being fooled,they are every bit as evil as they always was, the doors thing with a 74 yr old woman last night proved that

Even that "scene" felt weird like I wasn't quite sure if Spencer and Kim were actually joking around or if it was serious. The whole show, to me, feels contrived and semi scripted

[sampvt]

They think they can win by being sweet and nice. So wrong and if the prods slip in some info from outside, you will see them change their game plan to nasty again.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Even that "scene" felt weird like I wasn't quite sure if Spencer and Kim were actually joking around or if it was serious. The whole show, to me, feels contrived and semi scripted

Last nights show was by far the most uncomfortable show I've ever seen in BB

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What's going on with Speidi (Spencer mainly) How did they go from nominating Jamie for being mean to Jedward to crying because James J went over Jedward all in one day? Idgi, it feels like we missed a weeks worth of HLs or something? Is it all a game plan being upset or did he change it up when he heard Jedward getting boo'd or what? Thoughts?

* I still like Speidi, I just found the whole of last nights HL's really confusing

Yes,me too Niamh,I said last night I was confused,not sure the crying thing was genuine as I never really saw him and JJ as besties and they seem to like Jedward,also he was goading Kim,then he was defending her,so I just do not know what they are playing at

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,me too Niamh,I said last night I was confused,not sure the crying thing was genuine as I never really saw him and JJ as besties and they seem to like Jedward,also he was goading Kim,then he was defending her,so I just do not know what they are playing at

So weird, I'm really interested to see who they nominate now

[Withano]

I think the get Jedward out chants were a big influence in their sudden change of mood

Their overall gameplan seems illogical though, theyve faded into the background when they were the most talked about rumour. Theyre probably gonna be first out in the final if they keep it up.

[joeysteele]

I still overall would not be trusting Speidi.
Their format of last time I think they soon found would not work too well this time round.

I have been surprised but liked what appeared to be a neutral feeling from them towards Jedward but I was unsure it was genuine.

Speidi like to bring into play suspicion and conflict,after what John said to them and then heading out to plant seeds against Jedward for that I again convinced myself Speidi are acting falsely still.

Had Jedward gone and James J stayed, I think they would have looked for any seeds to plant against him with the others too.

At present,they are likely just sitting back watching the others push self destruct buttons and biding their time.
Enjoying every minute of fooling just about everyone.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I still overall would not be trusting Speidi.
Their format of last time I think they soon found would not work too well this time round.

I have been surprised but liked what appeared to be a neutral feeling from them towards Jedward but I was unsure it was genuine.

Speidi like to bring into play suspicion and conflict,after what John said to them and then heading out to plant seeds against Jedward for that I again convinced myself Speidi are acting falsely still.

Had Jedward gone and James J stayed, I think they would have looked for any seeds to plant against him with the others too.

At present,they are likely just sitting back watching the others push self destruct buttons and biding their time.
Enjoying every minute of fooling just about everyone.

Yeah this is probably right. I found it odd how not only Spencer but Heidi too cried when james left almost like she was taking the cue from Spencer. They're still pretty fascinating HMs to me though, this time more especially because I just cannot work out their game plan

[user104658]

I think they genuinely like James J and this was partly them lashing out a bit because they were upset that he went and Jedward were celebrating. There might also be a part of it that's them seeing Jedward as a threat, so trying to highlight the parts of behaviour that... ... lack decorum.

It doesn't make sense that it's just a game / tactic... they know at this point for a FACT that Jedward have more support than James J with the public, so turning on Jedward for the sake of James makes no sense at all in terms of a "plan".

[chuff me dizzy]

They told both JC and Jedward they were going to win

[wendywillow]

its not a tactic, would make no sense to cry over someone the public doesn't like and voted out, we only see 40 minutes of 24 hours a day, I think the Kim tirades are chewing up so much time we're missing a lot of ineraction

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by wendywillow

its not a tactic, would make no sense to cry over someone the public doesn't like and voted out, we only see 40 minutes of 24 hours a day, I think the Kim tirades are chewing up so much time we're missing a lot of ineraction

Well it could be a tactic for two reasons, one to show the viewers a sensitive side, doesn't matter who they're crying over really, just that they are crying and "have a heart" type thing? And secondly James J was popular in the house so being upset over him and dissing Jedward who are disliked in the house will save them from being nominated

Or they could just be genuinely upset over James leaving, I just don't see it though, they're reality show veterans, they barely know james and yeah maybe they liked him but they're going straight back to the states after this ends and will probably never see any of them HMs again anyway, I'm just not buying the tears tbqh

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well it could be a tactic for two reasons, one to show the viewers a sensitive side, doesn't matter who they're crying over really, just that they are crying and "have a heart" type thing? And secondly James J was popular in the house so being upset over him and dissing Jedward who are disliked in the house will save them from being nominated

Or they could just be genuinely upset over James leaving, I just don't see it though, they're reality show veterans, they barely know james and yeah maybe they liked him but they're going straight back to the states after this ends and will probably never see any of them HMs again anyway, I'm just not being the tears tbqh

Totally agree,they used JJ leaving for their own ends

[Cherie]

I don't think it's genuine, but it won't have done them any harm

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think it's genuine, but it won't have done them any harm

Yeah I really want them to come out and reveal that everything they did was part of a plan and that they played all the HMs, that would be amazing

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah I really want them to come out and reveal that everything they did was part of a plan and that they played all the HMs, that would be amazing

I think Spencer was just ratcheting up the Jedwars hate in the garden when he said about them jumping on the bed, like he cares

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well it could be a tactic for two reasons, one to show the viewers a sensitive side, doesn't matter who they're crying over really, just that they are crying and "have a heart" type thing? And secondly James J was popular in the house so being upset over him and dissing Jedward who are disliked in the house will save them from being nominated

Or they could just be genuinely upset over James leaving, I just don't see it though, they're reality show veterans, they barely know james and yeah maybe they liked him but they're going straight back to the states after this ends and will probably never see any of them HMs again anyway, I'm just not buying the tears tbqh

you know how it is in the house, a week is like a year in real time, I agree its quite strange, but I cant see either of them able to conjure up fake tears like that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by wendywillow

you know how it is in the house, a week is like a year in real time, I agree its quite strange, but I cant see either of them able to conjure up fake tears like that

Really? If anyone could it would be them, this what they do for a living, it's their job

[Vanessa]

I think they were upset that James J left. Jedward jumping on his bed soon after his bed pissed them off, simple as. Also they see them as a threat to winning. Is it enough for them to nominate them? Probably, not sure.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think they were upset that James J left. Jedward jumping on his bed soon after his bed pissed them off, simple as. Also they see them as a threat to winning. Is it enough for them to nominate them? Probably, not sure.

Why didnt they say something to Jedward ? they were laid right at the side of the bed when they were jumping like a pair of 5 yr olds at a birthday party

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Why didnt they say something to Jedward ? they were laid right at the side of the bed when they were jumping like a pair of 5 yr olds at a birthday party

I think they don't like confrontations. Notice that they haven't started a fight with anyone, except Austin who started screaming at Heidi.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think they don't like confrontations. Notice that they haven't started a fight with anyone, except Austin who started screaming at Heidi.

Seriously Vanessa ?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Seriously Vanessa ?

At least they haven't ganged up on them like the rest have.