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Old 30-01-2017, 12:49 AM #1
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Default Ahem, why are people around the world protesting US immigration policy?

Especially when it doesn't concern them. I can get if people on the web with little to do in other countries make comments. But when public leaders and officials criticize and people physically protest, I wonder what this has to do with them. As a free and independent country, no one apart from US citizens has the right to visit the US let alone immigrate. We have a right to decide who gets to immigrate and who doesn't. If Britain or Europe decided to limit immigration to their countries I would consider that their right even if I might disagree. Anyways, this is an issue between the US and 7 other countries.
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Especially when it doesn't concern them. I can get if people on the web with little to do in other countries make comments. But when public leaders and officials criticize and people physically protest, I wonder what this has to do with them. As a free and independent country, no one apart from US citizens has the right to visit the US let alone immigrate. We have a right to decide who gets to immigrate and who doesn't. If Britain or Europe decided to limit immigration to their countries I would consider that their right even if I might disagree. Anyways, this is an issue between the US and 7 other countries.
Why do Americans protest the way Muslim women are treated in some countries? Same reason. Human rights.
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Because many British (or Canadian, or wherever else) dual nationals from those seven countries were subject to the original ban. One of our most successful athletes - born in Somalia but whom lives in the States and travels for training and meets - would fall foul of the policy. As would one of the MPs in Theresa May's government. That's why.

Not to mention the fact the US is one of, if not the most powerful country on planet earth. Much of your politics has a knock on effect on the lives of people around the world, for good or bad, so people are well within their rights to take an interest in and protest certain policies as and when they see fit.
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Why do Americans protest the way Muslim women are treated in some countries? Same reason. Human rights.
In other words we are supposed to follow in Germany and France's footsteps and let millions of them in? No thanks.
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In other words we are supposed to follow in Germany and France's footsteps and let millions of them in? No thanks.
No, but maybe have a little compassion for some humans who have had their lives torn apart and need a safe haven? You don't need to open the floodgates. Not to mention, green card holders who have built a life for themselves in America are being turned away, for no good reason.
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"Liberty4eva fighting the PC culture" "why are people protesting"

Have a word with yourself lad.
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Especially when it doesn't concern them. I can get if people on the web with little to do in other countries make comments. But when public leaders and officials criticize and people physically protest, I wonder what this has to do with them. As a free and independent country, no one apart from US citizens has the right to visit the US let alone immigrate. We have a right to decide who gets to immigrate and who doesn't. If Britain or Europe decided to limit immigration to their countries I would consider that their right even if I might disagree. Anyways, this is an issue between the US and 7 other countries.
Because their lives are so miserable and they have nothing better to do.

And they think it makes them look like a good person to come to the defence of anyone they themselves consider a minority. It's all about themselves.
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to come to the defence of anyone they themselves consider a minority. It's all about themselves.
This is an oxymoron
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Its not just immigrants though is it? They are turning away people with green cards, people who already live and work in America and they are turning away holiday makers and people who do business with America.
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And we are talking about it because quite frankly its fcuking horrifying.
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Israel are banned from 15 muslim countries

expect a big petition to follow once they go to wiki to find out what Israel is
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Ahem, why has the US gotten involved in political and social issues across the globe for the last several decades?

If the US was truly isolationist then you might have a point but... err... it isn't. The US has global influence. The US - and US citizens - LOVE to crow about how much global influence they have. Global influence comes hand in hand with global interest. Give up your influence and become a truly self-sufficient isolationist state or calm down and deal with the fact that internal US politics DOES affect and IS relevant to the rest of the world. .

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"Especially when it doesn't concern them. "

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expect a big petition to follow once they go to wiki to find out what Israel is
There's no Brownie points for doing that, so don't count your chickens.

It's all about self hatred of the greatest civilisation in human history, Western civilisation.
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That time Arista said it doesnt concern UK citizens who are against it and then linked a thread he made as a UK citizen for it.

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It must be therefore some thing to do with Hitler?

(I am playing my joker on this answer )
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It must be therefore some thing to do with Hitler?

(I am playing my joker on this answer )

There is Legit Hitler 1936 Olympics in his
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And Later 1939 onwards Evil Hitler
to murdering Jews in a Large scale
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And LT
USA today
its Got nothing to do with that Era
joking or not joking


1936 Hitler
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Trump is more akin to Kim Jung Un than Hitler, both are fumbling wannabe dictators, surrounded by yes men who are overstepping their bounds.
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Trump is more akin to Kim Jung Un than Hitler, both are fumbling wannabe dictators, surrounded by yes men who are overstepping their bounds.
He reminds me of a young Lenny Henry
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America first, Netherlands second. It is great satire and very funny and apes Trump perfectly


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I fully support the protest, but there wasn't these mass protests when Obama and Hilary were bombing these countries to **** and meddling to create these rufugees in the first place. It kind of just strikes me as jumping on the anti trump protest than anything. For instance, if I was an Arab, I would feel a little embarrassed that it took someone threatening the rights of everyone for people to mostly give a damn about me

That said, Trump could have really gained some respect and shut a lot of doubters up if he undone some of the damage done by Obama/Clinton and worked to offer some refuge for the people of Syria,Libya,Yemen etc, but he failed tremondously.
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I fully support the protest, but there wasn't these mass protests when Obama and Hilary were bombing these countries to **** and meddling to create these rufugees in the first place. It kind of just strikes me as jumping on the anti trump protest than anything. For instance, if I was an Arab, I would feel a little embarrassed that it took someone threatening the rights of everyone for people to mostly give a damn about me

That said, Trump could have really gained some respect and shut a lot of doubters up if he undone some of the damage done by Obama/Clinton and worked to offer some refuge for the people of Syria,Libya,Yemen etc, but he failed tremondously.
I'm a member of 'Stop the War Coalition' and I went on the biggest march against war in Iraq in Feb 2003 I also attended a much smaller Downing St protest in September 2014 and although I couldn't attend, my family members attended another protest in Downing St in May 2015.
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