[Niamh.]

Donald Trump has "crossed the line", according to Fox News - his most important media ally.

After a raging and bizarrely incoherent press conference, in which Trump accused reporters of misinformation, mistakes and FAKE NEWS, Trump predictably took to Twitter for a rant.

But his latest tweet reaches a whole new level of terrifying.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!
9:48 PM - 17 Feb 2017
47,640 47,640 Retweets 149,086 149,086 likes

That's the leader of the 'Free World' accusing the media, the most indisputable cornerstone of any democratic society, of being the "enemy of the American people".

(The first edit of the tweet actually included the word "SICK!" at the end.)

Notice how media Goliath and television channel Fox News is notably absent from that list.

That's because the POTUS seems to get a huge amount of information from the channel and has done for a number of years.

Follow
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
My statement as to what's happening in Sweden was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning immigrants & Sweden.
9:57 PM - 19 Feb 2017
21,182 21,182 Retweets 80,298 80,298 likes


So, here's a sentence you'd never thought you'd hear.

Even Fox News thinks Trump went too far.

'Fox News Sunday' anchor Chris Wallace, appearing as a guest on the 'Fox and Friends', was asked whether Trump's ongoing feud was truly dangerous.

He responded with a famous quote by Thomas Jefferson:

Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.

Wallace went on to explain that while it is normal for presidents to clash with the press,Trump had "crossed a line" describing them as the enemy.

"Look, we're big boys. We criticise presidents. They want to criticise us back, that's fine. But when he said that the fake news media is not my enemy, it's the enemy of the American people, I believe that crosses an important line."

Yes, presidents have always had, and politicians have always had, problems with the press. They want good press. The press doesn't always give it to them.

But what Jefferson was saying there is, dispute all of our disputes, that to the functioning of a free and fair democracy, you must have an independent press.

Host Pete Hesgeth later questioned whether Trump was actually referring to the "hidden bias" of the press, rather than the independence of the press.

Wallace responded: "I think there's absolutely something there, and if he had said that, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of me."

Lord knows, Barack Obama criticised Fox News. If Donald Trump wants to criticise the New York Times, that's fine.

But it's different from saying that we are an enemy of the American people. That's a different thing.

And I know there are a lot of [Fox News] listeners out there who are going to reflexively take Donald Trump’s side on this.

[...] If it’s a president you like trying to talk about the press being the enemy of the people, then it’s going to be a president you don’t like saying the same thing.

And that’s very dangerous.

Wallace later received Reince Priebus, White House Chief Of Staff, as a guest on his show, and declared: "You don't get to tell us what to do, Reince. You don't get to tell us what to do any more than Barack Obama did."

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[Niamh.]

Other notable reactions to Trump's declaration:

Senator John McCain: "The first thing dictators do is shut down the press."

Hashtag #NotTheEnemy started trending, honouring journalists, particularly those who died while reporting the news

And here are some other notable figures who called the press "the enemy of the people":

Military junta in Myanmar

Richard Nixon

State media in Russia

Mao Zedong

Joseph Stalin

Adolf Hitler

[Tom4784]

What Trump is doing is beyond dangerous, the freedom of the press must be preserved and leaders must always be held accountable for their actions.

Trump is ****ting upon everything the US was built on.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What Trump is doing is beyond dangerous, the freedom of the press must be preserved and leaders must always be held accountable for their actions.

Trump is ****ting upon everything the US was built on.

more fiction, the left is the one that has tried to close down free speech , thats why we ended up with an anti-politician like trump

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

more fiction, the left is the one that has tried to close down free speech , thats why we ended up with an anti-politician like trump

The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

Theres always been huge swathes of fake news ,vast exaggeration, spin and lies. The media is simply more desperate than ever, with falling profits due to the competition from the internet and the pressure of 24 hour news

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

Theres always been huge swathes of fake news ,vast exaggeration, spin and lies. The media is simply more desperate than ever, with falling profits due to the competition from the internet and the pressure of 24 hour news

This thing called nuclear weapons, and other things. Like, lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

This thing called nuclear weapons, and other things. Like, lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things.

and what did the loony left do with their weapons? killed a million innocents

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

and what did the loony left do with their weapons? killed a million innocents

Uranium is bad

[arista]

FoxNewsHD being more balanced.

I noticed the other day every UK news used a clip
of presenter Shep who has a studio like star trek
But Shep is not Right Wing,

FoxNewsHD even has Tucker Carlson
a young libertarian
at the prime slot

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Uranium is bad

new labour is bad

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

new labour is bad

I'm Irish, i don't follow your Politics too much but I'll take your word for that, this thread is about Trump and Fox news though

[DrunkerThanMoses]

[Alf]

Carry on with your hysterical outrage, if you like, I'm just gonna have a cup of tea.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm Irish, i don't follow your Politics too much but I'll take your word for that, this thread is about Trump and Fox news though

Northern or republic? Nice way to avoid the bigger issue and play dumb....You didnt notice the 1 million iraqis killed by new labour? youre mocking trump about uranium , maybe its time you addressed the more serious matter , not donald trumps limited use of adjectives, but the reason why so many despots and middle eastern nations are chasing uranium, because new labour blew up the middle east and these nations want uranium to defend themselves.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

Northern or republic? Nice way to avoid the bigger issue and play dumb....You didnt notice the 1 million iraqis killed by new labour? youre mocking trump about uranium , maybe its time you addressed the more serious matter , not donald trumps limited use of adjectives, but the reason why so many despots and middle eastern nations are chasing uranium, because new labour blew up the middle east and these nations want uranium to defend themselves.

Republic

Why is me not following your politics equal to me playing dumb? Do you follow Irish Politics?

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by the truth

Northern or republic? Nice way to avoid the bigger issue and play dumb....You didnt notice the 1 million iraqis killed by new labour? youre mocking trump about uranium , maybe its time you addressed the more serious matter , not donald trumps limited use of adjectives, but the reason why so many despots and middle eastern nations are chasing uranium, because new labour blew up the middle east and these nations want uranium to defend themselves.

Probably by women too!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm Irish, i don't follow your Politics too much but I'll take your word for that, this thread is about Trump and Fox news though

How Nice

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Carry on with your hysterical outrage, if you like, I'm just gonna have a cup of tea.

try and skip any sugar

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Republic

Why is me not following your politics equal to me playing dumb? Do you follow Irish Politics?

Yes. Id also notice if ireland bombed a million innocent people to death...this is world politics and I notice you avoided my question. You have time for trivial mocking of trumps adjectives, simply to get cheap laughs and play to the anti trump leftist audience here, yet you have nothing to say about the actual use of bombs by the west and why there is such a drive for uranium. This really is trivial posting of the lowest order

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

How Nice

if he doesnt follow politics hes best not to comment

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

How Nice

I know you're an avid Enda supporter Arista

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

Yes. Id also notice if ireland bombed a million innocent people to death...this is world politics and I notice you avoided my question. You have time for trivial mocking of trumps adjectives, simply to get cheap laughs and play to the anti trump leftist audience here, yet you have nothing to say about the actual use of bombs by the west and why there is such a drive for uranium. This really is trivial posting of the lowest order

Do you think it has anything to do with discussing whats topical. It isnt 1997 anymore, also its 2017. New Labour gets discussed less and Trump more so for this incredibly simple reason perhaps?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

Yes. Id also notice if ireland bombed a million innocent people to death...this is world politics and I notice you avoided my question. You have time for trivial mocking of trumps adjectives, simply to get cheap laughs and play to the anti trump leftist audience here, yet you have nothing to say about the actual use of bombs by the west and why there is such a drive for uranium. This really is trivial posting of the lowest order

Why do you want me to comment on something that was in the news years ago? I'm commenting on current news like this Trump story. He's the gift that keeps on giving. Stay on topic or start your own thread sunshine

Originally Posted by the truth

if he doesnt follow politics hes best not to comment

*she.............oop

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I know you're an avid Enda supporter Arista

Yes a deal maker
Clever man.