[Cherie]

Are you happy that only English and Welsh pensioners will have their fuel allowance means tested at a level that has not been specified...it's colder in Scotland...apparently ...or is it that the Torys are desperate to get one over on the SNP..shame they don't feel Labour is a similar threat or English and Welsh pensioners might get the same benefit

[Kizzy]

I'm not a tory supporter *spit* but my feeling is they are going to make it so hard too claim that many forgo the hassle and just do what the tories want, get hypothermia and die.

[Wizard.]

Scotland is freezing so it's fair. You wouldn't give winters fuel allowance to people living in the Carribean.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm not a tory supporter *spit* but my feeling is they are going to make it so hard too claim that many forgo the hassle and just do what the tories want, get hypothermia and die.

You do know how clear-thinking and level-headed that sounds. Conspiracy theories awash.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You do know how clear-thinking and level-headed that sounds. Conspiracy theories awash.

Erm... what happen to freedom of speech? That is my opinion I'll thank you not to mock it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Scotland is freezing so it's fair. You wouldn't give winters fuel allowance to people living in the Carribean.

Are we talking about the Carribean?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You do know how clear-thinking and level-headed that sounds. Conspiracy theories awash.

It was on the news, May has said Scotland has powers over its own benefits and they won't means test pensioners, meanwhile they will means test your Mum and Dad

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Scotland is freezing so it's fair. You wouldn't give winters fuel allowance to people living in the Carribean.

It's not exactly tropical here!

[Greg!]

I'm screaming at them being so desperate to win seats in Scotland that they're just not doing that policy up here

[Cherie]

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's not exactly tropical here!

Apparently there is a huge difference if you live on one side of Hadrians wall or the other..ask Riley he will keep you warm

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Greg!

I'm screaming at them being so desperate to win seats in Scotland that they're just not doing that policy up here

Pathetic right but even more do that people are making excuses for it it's one degree warmer down south you know !!!!!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It was on the news, May has said Scotland has powers over its own benefits and they won't means test pensioners, meanwhile they will means test your Mum and Dad

I don't doubt that but I hardly think May wants our pensioners to drop dead of hyperthermia. For me it makes sense to give it to those that need it. If they don't I don't feel they should get it. Leaves more in the pot for those that do.

[Kizzy]

Watch the mortality rate rocket

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I don't doubt that but I hardly think May wants our pensioners to drop dead of hyperthermia. For me it makes sense to give it to those that need it. If they don't I don't feel they should get it. Leaves more in the pot for those that do.

So why does not not apply to Scottish pensioners? It won't leave any more in the pot than the 350 mil per week to the NHS it will be diverted elsewhere don't you worry about that

[Cherie]

Are there no wealthy Scottish pensioner Brillo?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So why does not not apply to Scottish pensioners? It won't leave any more in the pot than the 350 mil per week to the NHS it will be diverted elsewhere don't you worry about that

It should apply to all including the Scots in my opinion.

[DemolitionRed]

Its going to cost more to employ the staff to do the admin but then I suppose the Tories collect tax on admin staff... win, win.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It should apply to all including the Scots in my opinion.

Well it's not going to apply, because the Torys want votes in Scotland, so guess what ...... who pays the price...nothing to do with who can afford it, it's all about that landslide victory ..if this doesn't show exactly what the Torys are about nothing will in all honesty

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Its going to cost more to employ the staff to do the admin but then I suppose the Tories collect tax on admin staff... win, win.

They won't need any admin in Scotland..no one will be giving up their allowance

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So why does not not apply to Scottish pensioners? It won't leave any more in the pot than the 350 mil per week to the NHS it will be diverted elsewhere don't you worry about that

It is up to the Scottish Parliament to decide. Devolution and all that.
It will come out of their own taxes I should imagine.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

It is up to the Scottish Parliament to decide. Devolution and all that.
It will come out of their own taxes I should imagine.

Will English and Welsh workers get a rebate do you think?

[Cherie]

I hope the Welsh protect their pensioners as well, so it's only the English pensioners suffer, the idea that members can't see that this is a blatant move to win votes in Scotland while taking the votes elsewhere pretty much for granted is incredible

[James]

You're pointing out the flaws in devolution here.

In Scotland policies like this are decided by members of the Scottish Parliament (although a lot of it is still funded by the UK Treasury, which complicates it more). For England it is decided by the UK parliament, including Scottish MPs.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by James

You're pointing out the flaws in devolution here.

In Scotland policies like this are decided by members of the Scottish Parliament (although a lot of it is still funded by the UK Treasury, which complicates it more). For England it is decided by the UK parliament, including Scottish MPs.

but parliament is dissolved so no one has authority to say anything really

[James]

I mean after the election, and the new (UK) parliament is sitting?