[Kizzy]

''Earlier I said the Labour leadership was unlikely to be too worried about the 50 MPs defying the whip, but that was a bit premature. When the Commons voted earlier this year on the bill authorising the government to trigger article 50 (which formally started the Brexit process), Jeremy Corbyn made it clear that shadow cabinet ministers would have to resign if they wanted to defy the whip and vote against, but junior shadow ministers who rebelled were allowed to keep their jobs. Some 47 MPs voted against the bill.''


Andy Slaughter tells me he "assumes" he's been sacked from Labour's frontbench after voting for @ChukaUmunna's amendment.


Whip those centrist basts jez!!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

[Kizzy]

Anushka Asthana @GuardianAnushka
Labour confirms that all frontbenchers who voted against government's demand for abstention on single market vote have been SACKED.
6:14 PM - 29 Jun 2017

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Anushka Asthana @GuardianAnushka
Labour confirms that all frontbenchers who voted against government's demand for abstention on single market vote have been SACKED.
6:14 PM - 29 Jun 2017

Thats a shame

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

''Earlier I said the Labour leadership was unlikely to be too worried about the 50 MPs defying the whip, but that was a bit premature. When the Commons voted earlier this year on the bill authorising the government to trigger article 50 (which formally started the Brexit process), Jeremy Corbyn made it clear that shadow cabinet ministers would have to resign if they wanted to defy the whip and vote against, but junior shadow ministers who rebelled were allowed to keep their jobs. Some 47 MPs voted against the bill.''


Andy Slaughter tells me he "assumes" he's been sacked from Labour's frontbench after voting for @ChukaUmunna's amendment.


Whip those centrist basts jez!!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

He never was a Mr Nice Guy. All a sales ploy.

[MTVN]

Hard left takeover

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Hard left takeover

Yep

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Hard left takeover

Hardly hard left!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Hardly hard left!

Oh yes he is - people aren't stupid you know - well certainly not those that know how left wing he is.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh yes he is - people aren't stupid you know - well certainly not those that know how left wing he is.

Are they daily mail reader type stupid?... Please don't come in here to bait Corbyn supporters.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

''Earlier I said the Labour leadership was unlikely to be too worried about the 50 MPs defying the whip, but that was a bit premature. When the Commons voted earlier this year on the bill authorising the government to trigger article 50 (which formally started the Brexit process), Jeremy Corbyn made it clear that shadow cabinet ministers would have to resign if they wanted to defy the whip and vote against, but junior shadow ministers who rebelled were allowed to keep their jobs. Some 47 MPs voted against the bill.''


Andy Slaughter tells me he "assumes" he's been sacked from Labour's frontbench after voting for @ChukaUmunna's amendment.


Whip those centrist basts jez!!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

What a shambles their Brexit policy has turned out to be. Corbyn must be humiliated.

[Vicky.]

Why do Labour (and the Tories I think?) wish to leave the single market? I thought that was one of the good things about the EU.

I see it as rather pointless for MPs to have a vote if they are told how they have to vote tbh. Whichever party is doing this.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Why do Labour (and the Tories I think?) wish to leave the single market? I thought that was one of the good things about the EU.

Because there are conditions attached to single market membership. Certain trade and product regulations etc. that have to be adhered to and, as far as I understand, some degree of free movement is required also. I read a statement by the leader of Norway where he outlined how their market membership (without EU membership) works and basically it involves them being given advance notice of any changes to EU laws and regulations, and they adapt their own laws and regulations to "fit" before it goes into place. I suppose the major difference being that they never HAVE to do it - if any change is proposed that they're not on board with they can (in theory) simply refuse and immediately opt out of the single market, no discussion required.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Why do Labour (and the Tories I think?) wish to leave the single market? I thought that was one of the good things about the EU.

I see it as rather pointless for MPs to have a vote if they are told how they have to vote tbh. Whichever party is doing this.

All what TS said.Plus...

The Tories are saying that they're enacting the will of the people which is fully out of the EU.Not in the EU in everything other than name.
With Labour,Corbyn has always been a Brexiteer.He doesn't believe in the EU as an organisation.The single market and customs union are part of that.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jet

What a shambles their Brexit policy has turned out to be. Corbyn must be humiliated.

Please save all that hot air for the people who are actually running this show; the Tories. Corbyn still has no real clout in parliament and thus far, can afford to be somewhat evasive and I don't blame him. The whole thing is so toxic, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

[jaxie]

I wonder how those who admire Corbyn, who were also adamant about remain feel about this conflict of interests?

You have to remember also re the single market the EU have said adamantly no free movement no single market. Leaving the single market doesn't stop us seeking a free trade deal with Europe.

[Kizzy]

I think he is right to expect his MP to not go maverick on him they seem to delight in undermining him at every opportunity. I respect his views and on the subject of renationalisation I reconsidered the benefits of brexit, it was specifically a tory brexit I didn't want.
I DO NOT want to be part of a no human rights BRIC country either, I am sill banking on Corbyn delivering us from that fate.