[Brillopad]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40483171

Increased convictions for terrorism are coming from a wide cross-section of society. How do we deal with this?

[Withano]

Probably shouldnt have voted for cuts to the police force. Probably should have voted for more of them.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40483171

Increased convictions for terrorism are coming from a wide cross-section of society. How do we deal with this?

Well the first step would be to stop vilifying and dehumanising that cross-section of society, work hard for better integration and inclusion and less hatred on both sides. That would at least form a foundation for real conversations, and stop the youth of that cross-section from feeling alienated and frustrated.

Or I guess we could just "gerrem all outta here send em back" or something, that seems to be the more popular answer.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well the first step would be to stop vilifying and dehumanising that cross-section of society, work hard for better integration and inclusion and less hatred on both sides. That would at least form a foundation for real conversations, and stop the youth of that cross-section from feeling alienated and frustrated.

Or I guess we could just "gerrem all outta here send em back" or something, that seems to be the more popular answer.

Its about time liberals and radical feminists stopped dehumanising straight white men too

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

Its about time liberals and radical feminists stopped liberals stopped dehumanising straight white men too

Someone reboot Truth, he's broken. Ctrl-alt-delete!

This sentence is legendary.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Someone reboot Truth, he's broken. Ctrl-alt-delete!

This sentence is legendary.

wow a typo error how hilarious, duly amended , gave you a chance to avoid the serious issue and make another fickle point

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

wow a typo error how hilarious, duly amended , gave you a chance to avoid the serious issue and make another fickle point

It still has absolutely nothing to do with the thread though. Everyone should stop demonising and dehumanising everyone else... does that suffice?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by the truth

Its about time liberals and radical feminists stopped dehumanising straight white men too

Stop

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well the first step would be to stop vilifying and dehumanising that cross-section of society, work hard for better integration and inclusion and less hatred on both sides. That would at least form a foundation for real conversations, and stop the youth of that cross-section from feeling alienated and frustrated.

Or I guess we could just "gerrem all outta here send em back" or something, that seems to be the more popular answer.

Integration is a two-way process, but the main emphasis is on those settling in a new country - they have to make a considerable effort to become part of that society. I would strongly apply that to those leaving Britain for pastures new and those coming to live in Britain.

I have no time for the train of thought that seems to put no responsibility on those from one culture to make an effort to identify with the way of life of the country they live in.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well the first step would be to stop vilifying and dehumanising that cross-section of society, work hard for better integration and inclusion and less hatred on both sides. That would at least form a foundation for real conversations, and stop the youth of that cross-section from feeling alienated and frustrated.

Or I guess we could just "gerrem all outta here send em back" or something, that seems to be the more popular answer.

I would agree with what you say, if it weren't for the fact that the muslim imams tell other muslims NOT to integrate. NOT to follow British law etc.,
The only possible solution is to deport all radical imams. Close down all radical mosques and then MAYBE the moderate muslims would have a chance to integrate.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

I would agree with what you say, if it weren't for the fact that the muslim imams tell other muslims NOT to integrate. NOT to follow British law etc.,
The only possible solution is to deport all radical imams. Close down all radical mosques and then MAYBE the moderate muslims would have a chance to integrate.

yes they should plus they must stop the funding of terrorism by saudia arabia to uk muslim churches

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes they should plus they must stop the funding of terrorism by saudia arabia to uk muslim churches

Who must stop funding Saudi Arabia ?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

I would agree with what you say, if it weren't for the fact that the muslim imams tell other muslims NOT to integrate. NOT to follow British law etc.,
The only possible solution is to deport all radical imams. Close down all radical mosques and then MAYBE the moderate muslims would have a chance to integrate.

Your first sentence was incorrect. Your second paragraph is correct.

Just saying.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well the first step would be to stop vilifying and dehumanising that cross-section of society, work hard for better integration and inclusion and less hatred on both sides. That would at least form a foundation for real conversations, and stop the youth of that cross-section from feeling alienated and frustrated.

Or I guess we could just "gerrem all outta here send em back" or something, that seems to be the more popular answer.

That almost sounds like justification. Terrorism is murder - there are no excuses - even if people feel alienated and frustrated.

If we go down that route then everyone who feels alienated, for whatever reason, would believe they had a right to annilate anyone who they believed had made them feel that way. Decent people don't resort to cold blooded murder.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That almost sounds like justification. Terrorism is murder - there are no excuses - even if people feel alienated and frustrated.

If we go down that route then everyone who feels alienated, for whatever reason, would believe they had a right to annilate anyone who they believed had made them feel that way. Decent people don't resort to cold blooded murder.

Western governments shouldn't be excused from that statement either.