[Jodie.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Also apparently Phil Edgar Jones is in the running to take over Channel 4. He was massively in BB's corner and if Ben Frow chooses to axe it we could see it coming home...

Why didn’t Phil stay at Endemol when it went to C5, always wondered that?

[Cal.]

Also from reading DS apparently all's Channel 5 ever wanted was the nightly CBB highlights shows along with evictions and a final. Endemol insisted they had a companion show and civilian Big Brother as well. This explains literally everything lmao.

[Oaker]

It's interesting though because I feel like C5 used to put effort into BB, like BB12/13/14 clearly had a lot of effort put into them imo so I wonder what happened around 2014 which is when they seemed to start preferring CBB.

[Jodie.]

Originally Posted by Oaker

It's interesting though because I feel like C5 used to put effort into BB, like BB12/13/14 clearly had a lot of effort put into them imo so I wonder what happened around 2014 which is when they seemed to start preferring CBB.

Probably when CBB13 managed over 3m I think

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Also from reading DS apparently all's Channel 5 ever wanted was the nightly CBB highlights shows along with evictions and a final. Endemol insisted they had a companion show and civilian Big Brother as well. This explains literally everything lmao.

That's such a mess omg

C5 probs didn't even know about the existence of BBLB and just invented BBBOTS on the spot

[Oaker]

I just realized 2014 was also when they started giving CBB it's own theme/eye/house

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Also from reading DS apparently all's Channel 5 ever wanted was the nightly CBB highlights shows along with evictions and a final. Endemol insisted they had a companion show and civilian Big Brother as well. This explains literally everything lmao.

That's interesting actually as that's what Germany now has, I believe.

[HBIC]

Originally Posted by Jarrod

That's interesting actually as that's what Germany now has, I believe.

Yep, Germany only has CBB on the air. They also don't have a live feed anymore either.

[rph]

whoop if we can get original BB going again

[Buck]

Originally Posted by HBIC

Yep, Germany only has CBB on the air. They also don't have a live feed anymore either.

Being a German, I can only tell that we don't have a proper BB anymore. Currently, the fifth series of CBB is airing - but in fact, it is a poor rip-off of "I'm a celebrity...". It only airs two weeks a year and the whole format is a disaster. They tried to reboot the civilian version in 2015 on another channel, after it had been axed in 2011. But it only lasted one series.

I much prefer the British version (civilian and celebrity) which I've been watching since 2011 now.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Also apparently Phil Edgar Jones is in the running to take over Channel 4. He was massively in BB's corner and if Ben Frow chooses to axe it we could see it coming home...

Not the man who ejected Emily @ 4am

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Not the man who ejected Emily @ 4am

A sinner?

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Apparently the people speaking for Love Island spoke to other reality TV producers/bosses and warned them not to try and copy Love Island as it may do more harm than good. Of course Ben Frow will be the only one that doesn't listen.

Ben Frow has been the only one to listen to fans especially during bb14 which is Channel 5's most successful civilian series. He would respond to bb viewers emails but I'm guessing he's sick and tired of the constant hassle from bb fans he doesn't run the show this is why channel 4 ditched it due to people constantly complaining.

Give it to itv2.

[nonstop]

The series needs rested badly. Channel 5 have run it into the mud with 2 celeb editions and BB a year, it's overload. A 4-5 year break would be good and bring back the normal housemates or reboot with the american format.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by nonstop

The series needs rested badly. Channel 5 have run it into the mud with 2 celeb editions and BB a year, it's overload. A 4-5 year break would be good and bring back the normal housemates or reboot with the american format.

I agree it needs a rest and how much media attention would it get if it went back to channel 4?

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

I agree it needs a rest and how much media attention would it get if it went back to channel 4?

I warned you about this a few days ago ponty, just wouldn't have it would you

[y.winter]

It's mutual Ben, BB doesn't like C5 as well.
End this awful marriage and let BB die for a few years.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Also from reading DS apparently all's Channel 5 ever wanted was the nightly CBB highlights shows along with evictions and a final. Endemol insisted they had a companion show and civilian Big Brother as well. This explains literally everything lmao.

I've been saying this for years and was basically accused of being a liar on one occasion, they only ever wanted CBB and Endemol told them it was a package deal. Whether that still stands remains to be seen

Originally Posted by Oaker

It's interesting though because I feel like C5 used to put effort into BB, like BB12/13/14 clearly had a lot of effort put into them imo so I wonder what happened around 2014 which is when they seemed to start preferring CBB.

They preferred CBB right from the start, why do you think they launched the revivial (in the summer!) with Celebrity Big Brother? And then gave us a summer CBB forevermore?

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Also apparently Phil Edgar Jones is in the running to take over Channel 4. He was massively in BB's corner and if Ben Frow chooses to axe it we could see it coming home...

Come through Phil! Bring it back!

[Braden]

Let it have a rest, and then fingers crossed it will be revived on C4.

I'm not saying the show hasn't had its good moments on C5, but that's always came as a result of the housemates themselves. C5 have made a mess of the show from the very beginning in terms of its production. CBB has improved, but only because of its casting choices, and the fact that they have two per year really allows their **** to stick occasionally.

Not to blame Channel 5 entirely. A lot of the terrible production ideas came from BB11, but they took them to a terrible extreme.

[bitontheslide]

When the contract is up for renewal it will go to the channel that bids the most dosh for it. Its not an automatic thing. If C4 wanted it, they could have bid at the time of the last renewal. They didn't. Once you get channels below C5 in the running to host it, you may as well throw it away anyway as C5 is basically pond life.

[Denver]

No channel would pay 300 million for it

[T*]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Also apparently Phil Edgar Jones is in the running to take over Channel 4. He was massively in BB's corner and if Ben Frow chooses to axe it we could see it coming home...

omg imagine BB having a break for a few years and coming back on C4 in like 2020 for the 20th anniversary and it's all like it used to be on C4