Here is what "a peaceful stand against hate" looks like

[Northern Monkey]

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[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Alt left thugs, but expect all the usual excuses and attempted justification!

[Toy Soldier]

Why does it descend so quickly into an impotent red-faced rant about "snowflakes" .

[parmnion]

Have you saw the clip of them attacking the vet in the wheelchair?

[Underscore]

At this point I don't care if it's a violent stand against hate!

Anyway it's basically Communists v Fascists. Both can rot in hell as far as I care.

[Kizzy]

There is nothing to suggest that those people with their faces covered are antifa is there?

Perspective.

[Oliver_W]

Everyone knows Antifa and BLM are just violent thugs, but it's good to see some media acknowledgement.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There is nothing to suggest that those people with their faces covered are antifa is there?

Perspective.

The reporter said they were Antifa.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The reporter said they were Antifa.

Must be a fact then.
Propaganda only works because a certain type of person is always ready to blindly believe it.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Must be a fact then.
Propaganda only works because a certain type of person is always ready to blindly believe it.

You do understand that works both ways I assume!

[parmnion]

You can tell they were antifa, they stopped when the black bloke intervened.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The reporter said they were Antifa.

How did he know?... :/

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How did he know?... :/

Kizzy, you can deflect all you like but everything suggests they were Antifa. You would be jumping all over them if there was the slightest suggestion they were a far-right group. You have to stop thinking the far-left are whiter than white.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Kizzy, you can deflect all you like but everything suggests they were Antifa. You would be jumping all over them if there was the slightest suggestion they were a far-right group. You have to stop thinking the far-left are whiter than white.

Everything suggests, not just the reporter now?
You have no proof these militia clad people were antifa, none.

[Northern Monkey]

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The irony of beating people with 'no hate' signs

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Everything suggests, not just the reporter now?
You have no proof these militia clad people were antifa, none.

In Hamburg, when the G20 meeting was taking place Antifa showed exactly what they were. On a quiet city street, shops below and apartments above, someone filmed them walking down this street, hauling signposts, benches etc., through shop windows.
The thing was, no-one was opposing them. There were no other protesters, no police, no bankers for them to be 'oppressed' by, yet still they had to smash and destroy. Thugs, pure and simple.

[DemolitionRed]

I no more support Antifa than the militant Right. If anything, I see Antifa as the enemy that will drive people away from Left wing politics.

The problem is authoritarianism. It doesn’t matter if you are Left or Right because any authoritarianism is a problem. Most of us who sit to the Left are social libertarians, not authoritarians. Most people who sit to the Right are moderate libertarians, not authoritarians.

Antifa are a fringe that are wrong in principle, just like the militant Right are wrong in principle. Neither deserves our protection or defense. For me at least, Antifa are an enemy of the Left and are a major gift to the militant Right who are much bigger and have a more overall brutal ideology.