[parmnion]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

They are doing an armed raid in Sunbury-on-Thames. Consider my eyebrow well and truly raised. If leafy Surrey has fallen to the terrorists we are all doomed!

Seems like it is the white couples house who opened their doors to the refugees.


We must remember to thank nicola sturgeon for suggesting we all do that, such an insightful woman...sigh

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

FFS stop being a 999 alarmist. You are putting up stuff with no link. We all know about the raised terror threat but that's it.

Some idiot puts a homemade bomb on the tube, that didn’t go off properly. Probably an Islamist sympathizer but with all the clues he left behind, he should be caught in no time. I’ve just been sitting in my local bar in central London and nobody there seemed concerned. People were far more bothered about a warehouse fire stopping trains out of Euston.

I dont think i have ever seen such a bury your head in the sand post as this..gee whizz.

For starters it wadnt some idiot..it was well planned with several people handling the bomb on its way to its final destination...

Only thing to fail was the bomb..next time you all might choke on your pints when someone comes running into your pub screeming about the burning bodies on your local underground station.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...est-second-man

Second suspect arrested for attempted terrorism. Now a 21 year old as well as the 18 year old who were both refugees and been in foster care with the same family.

This is where it gets odd. Foster care for UK residents can now go on up to the age of 21 but foster care for lone child asylum seekers and those given asylums ends at 18. Are they saying these children are still in foster care?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Seems like it is the white couples house who opened their doors to the refugees.


We must remember to thank nicola sturgeon for suggesting we all do that, such an insightful woman...sigh

Not at all. People who foster children are salaried for doing so and believe me, its very good money. I'm not saying people just do it for the money but they are handsomely rewarded, especially if they take on a lone refugee child. And because my line of work is with refugee children, most of whom end up in children's homes and not in foster care, I can tell you without doubt, that it isn't just white people wanting to foster.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I dont think i have ever seen such a bury your head in the sand post as this..gee whizz.

For starters it wadnt some idiot..it was well planned with several people handling the bomb on its way to its final destination...

Only thing to fail was the bomb..next time you all might choke on your pints when someone comes running into your pub screeming about the burning bodies on your local underground station.

Well that's the difference between you and me. I refuse to live in fear. If I get blown up whilst having a drink in a pub c'est la vie!
I don't believe half the siht the media tell us. Every paper carries a different slant so what am I supposed to believe? If you want to get all hyped up, go right ahead but don't expect us all to join in the hysteria.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Well that's the difference between you and me. I refuse to live in fear. If I get blown up whilst having a drink in a pub c'est la vie!
I don't believe half the siht the media tell us. Every paper carries a different slant so what am I supposed to believe? If you want to get all hyped up, go right ahead but don't expect us all to join in the hysteria.

Oh i dont live in fear, but i am a lot more aware when im out.

But hey, just because the bomb didnt go off people will soon forget this...we shouldnt, this could have been the most deadly and barbaric death causing one yet if it had all went to plan....you should not dismiss it so easily...very foolish.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

This is where it gets odd. Foster care for UK residents can now go on up to the age of 21 but foster care for lone child asylum seekers and those given asylums ends at 18. Are they saying these children are still in foster care?

I'm not sure, but I think they were in foster care with them, maybe the 21 year-old, at least, was one of the many posing as child refugees which we were mug enough to buy into. The crux of the story though is how this country takes them in, gives them a safe place to live and how do they react - they try to kill as many of their people as they can.

I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for them after such a cold blooded act. They should be locked up for the protection of our children.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I'm not sure, but I think they were in foster care with them. The crux of the story though is how this country takes them in, gives them a safe place to live and how do they react - they try to kill as many of their people as they can.

I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for them after such a cold blooded act. They should be locked up for the protection of our children.

Who should be locked up?...the fosterers?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Who should be locked up?...the fosterers?

No, the two terrorists. I know some people will try to defend/excuse their actions because of their backgrounds but, at the end of the day, the safety of our children should be our main concern.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No, the two terrorists. I know some people will try to defend/excuse their actions because of their backgrounds but, at the end of the day, the safety of our children should be our main concern.

Oh thank **** for that.....


The terrorists need tortured for info imo.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No, the two terrorists. I know some people will try to defend/excuse their actions because of their backgrounds but, at the end of the day, the safety of our children should be our main concern.

Nobody is trying to defend their actions. I defend the peaceful refugees, not the ones that get radicalized and go on to commit terrorist acts.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Oh thank **** for that.....


The terrorists need tortured for info imo.

Calm down. No-one should be tortured, I wouldn't be against waterboarding though

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Calm down. No-one should be tortured, I wouldn't be against waterboarding though

You want to try waterboarding... seriously?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You want to try waterboarding... seriously?

I don't want it to happen, but I wouldn't mind if it did, as long is it got information.

[Cherie]

Interesting that it was suggested jihadi's would come in posing as refugees and it was dismissed as media hysteria. The horrible part about this is that the UK took from refugee camps where they were allegedly genuine refugees

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Interesting that it was suggested jihadi's would come in posing as refugees and it was dismissed as media hysteria. The horrible part about this is that the UK took from refugee camps where they were allegedly genuine refugees

Who would have guessed bringing in fighting age men from parts of the world rife with indoctrination and extremism might lead to bad things.

[Rob!]

I don't know if it's been mentioned because I can't be bothered trawling through the bickering, but we're back down to severe now

[arista]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I don't know if it's been mentioned because I can't be bothered trawling through the bickering, but we're back down to severe now

Yes Rob
let it all HANG OUT ...........

[arista]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You want to try waterboarding... seriously?

Might be the S&M
version...............

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I don't know if it's been mentioned because I can't be bothered trawling through the bickering, but we're back down to severe now

I really don't think it matters much what level we are on, what level were we on when it happened, probably severe, lets face it nothing happens when we are at critical

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I'm not sure, but I think they were in foster care with them, maybe the 21 year-old, at least, was one of the many posing as child refugees which we were mug enough to buy into. The crux of the story though is how this country takes them in, gives them a safe place to live and how do they react - they try to kill as many of their people as they can.

I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for them after such a cold blooded act. They should be locked up for the protection of our children.

There is a whole system in place to try and work out the real age of a child refugee. Middle Eastern boys often have facial hair from fourteen onwards and tend to look older than their European cousins. When investigations are done to find the real age of a suspected adult, its done by experts who use critical observations. Sometimes someone slips through the net but that net is fairly well woven so its unlikely many get through.

What we mustn't do is fall into a trap of believing all refugee children are suspects. The majority of these kids are going to grow up to be decent human beings. The ones that don't, deserve all they get. Nobody is sympathizing with people who cheated the system to launch a terror campaign.

As for protecting our children; let's not use our kids as an emotional pawn. When it comes to terrorism, no life lost is any less valuable than another. It matters not if you are young, old, British or foreign. We all need protection from terrorism.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Interesting that it was suggested jihadi's would come in posing as refugees and it was dismissed as media hysteria. The horrible part about this is that the UK took from refugee camps where they were allegedly genuine refugees

I love the way you read into things that aren't really there.

[waterhog]

not reassured by the intelligence - they are clueless ! up and down like a yoyo

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Calm down. No-one should be tortured, I wouldn't be against waterboarding though

Wow!!!! And what exactly would you class 'waterboarding' as then ? It's ****ing TORTURE!!!!

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't want it to happen, but I wouldn't mind if it did, as long is it got information.

Yeah, torture got lots of information during the Iraq debacle at the Black Sites, the vast majority of it false. People will say anything to stop being tortured (especially the innocent ones detained in error).........mad isn't it.
With an attitude like that let's hope you find yourself on the receiving end of torture one day so you can appreciate what a truly sub-human, barbaric thing it is. Have you not heard of the Geneva Convention ? Maybe you should look at the work Amnesty International do in support of Human Rights throughout the World. Educate yourself a bit why don't you.

I think these are probably your most ridiculous posts yet. You're the sort of person that decent, caring people are ashamed of.

Originally Posted by parmnion

The terrorists need tortured for info imo.

How can we 'claim' to be more humain in the West if we resort to the same tactics as ''the terrorists'' ? Makes you as bad as them..........imo.

[Toy Soldier]

"I'm against torture but waterboarding is OK"

TiBB 2017 ladies and gentlemen; a subtle blend of barbarity and mildly amusing stupidity.