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Kazanne · 23-11-2017, 05:27 AM

John Venables one half of the cretins that murdered James Bulger is back in prison AGAIN after vile images are found again on his computer, when are the British Judicial system going to wake up and lock this cretin up for life .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hild-porn.html

and it all rattles on again for Denise and Ralph who really have been let down on this case.

AnnieK · 23-11-2017, 05:57 AM

Sick bastard....he has proved now that he is incapable of rehabilitation. Time to throw away the key imo

Kazanne · 23-11-2017, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Sick bastard....he has proved now that he is incapable of rehabilitation. Time to throw away the key imo

Well,Annie we were promised after they came out the young offenders institute they were in that if they broke the law they would be recalled to prison and kept there,this didn't happen with Venables,he was recalled a few years back and let back out again and here we are ,he is back in there,time to stop molly coddling these two,as you say chuck the blooming key away.

arista · 23-11-2017, 06:09 AM

Kazanne · 23-11-2017, 06:16 AM

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He is in a secure unit,shame they dont let him mingle with the other offenders.

bots · 23-11-2017, 06:26 AM

I'm fairly confident that he will get what's coming to him at some point. It's a matter of time, and the hope that he doesn't get the opportunity to destroy anyone elses lives in the meantime

Beso · 23-11-2017, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I'm fairly confident that he will get what's coming to him at some point. It's a matter of time, and the hope that he doesn't get the opportunity to destroy anyone elses lives in the meantime

Id be wanting to find out what or who destroyed his life.

Cherie · 23-11-2017, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Id be wanting to find out what or who destroyed his life.

would you really? I think it has already been established he came from an abusive background with no boundaries, given his age when he was incarcerated he has had many years in rehabilitation, something a lot of adults who came from abusive backgrounds never had any access to and have managed to go on and live their lives without resorting to type.

Throw away the key this time, he is a danger to be out on the streets

user104658 · 23-11-2017, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

would you really? I think it has already been established he came from an abusive background with no boundaries, given his age when he was incarcerated he has had many years in rehabilitation, something a lot of adults who came from abusive backgrounds never had any access to and have managed to go on and live their lives without resorting to type.

Throw away the key this time, he is a danger to be out on the streets

It's not that simple really, you can't just say that "not all abused kids go bad so theres no reason that any abused kid should go bad"... Psychology is nuanced and complex, and some people simply break.

That said; some broken people are dangerous and "unfixable", and that has to be accepted too. I fully believe that both of those boys are both criminals AND victims, and that tragically one / some of the people guilty for what happened - whoever is responsible for creating the monsters - will never feel the full force of the law for what happened.

In fact, most serial killers and some of the world's most dangerous people were once victims. But that doesn't mean it's safe, or a good idea, to let them back into society. I guess you can compare it to dogs? Pretty much all vicious dogs that attack and maul people have been physically abused extensively. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to rehome them... They are always going to be a hair away from hurting someone else.

Cherie · 23-11-2017, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not that simple really, you can't just say that "not all abused kids go bad so theres no reason that any abused kid should go bad"... Psychology is nuanced and complex, and some people simply break.

That said; some broken people are dangerous and "unfixable", and that has to be accepted too. I fully believe that both of those boys are both criminals AND victims, and that tragically one / some of the people guilty for what happened - whoever is responsible for creating the monsters - will never feel the full force of the law for what happened.

In fact, most serial killers and some of the world's most dangerous people were once victims. But that doesn't mean it's safe, or a good idea, to let them back into society. I guess you can compare it to dogs? Pretty much all vicious dogs that attack and maul people have been physically abused extensively. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to rehome them... They are always going to be a hair away from hurting someone else.

My point is that he want taken into custody at such a young age that "rehabilitation" if it were going to work in his case would have had some impact by now, he has been in prison longer than he has been with his parents or whoever he lived with, nature v nuture, I go for nature here

Crimson Dynamo · 23-11-2017, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not that simple really, you can't just say that "not all abused kids go bad so theres no reason that any abused kid should go bad"... Psychology is nuanced and complex, and some people simply break.

That said; some broken people are dangerous and "unfixable", and that has to be accepted too. I fully believe that both of those boys are both criminals AND victims, and that tragically one / some of the people guilty for what happened - whoever is responsible for creating the monsters - will never feel the full force of the law for what happened.

In fact, most serial killers and some of the world's most dangerous people were once victims. But that doesn't mean it's safe, or a good idea, to let them back into society. I guess you can compare it to dogs? Pretty much all vicious dogs that attack and maul people have been physically abused extensively. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to rehome them... They are always going to be a hair away from hurting someone else.

yes and like dogs these people should be exterminated immediately and without hand wringing. Dogs and humans are no different.

Niamh. · 23-11-2017, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not that simple really, you can't just say that "not all abused kids go bad so theres no reason that any abused kid should go bad"... Psychology is nuanced and complex, and some people simply break.

That said; some broken people are dangerous and "unfixable", and that has to be accepted too. I fully believe that both of those boys are both criminals AND victims, and that tragically one / some of the people guilty for what happened - whoever is responsible for creating the monsters - will never feel the full force of the law for what happened.

In fact, most serial killers and some of the world's most dangerous people were once victims. But that doesn't mean it's safe, or a good idea, to let them back into society. I guess you can compare it to dogs? Pretty much all vicious dogs that attack and maul people have been physically abused extensively. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to rehome them... They are always going to be a hair away from hurting someone else.

That's a good analogy actually.

The problem then is you find out he had a bad upbringing and then want to punish his parents but they probably had a bad upbringing too etc etc

The bottom line is whether they had a bad up bringing or not, it's not safe for innocent children to have people like him released into society. And with crimes like this one, I don't think he ever should have been because the only way to test out if rehabilitation has worked is by putting more children at risk and that is not acceptable imo

hijaxers · 23-11-2017, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

would you really? I think it has already been established he came from an abusive background with no boundaries, given his age when he was incarcerated he has had many years in rehabilitation, something a lot of adults who came from abusive backgrounds never had any access to and have managed to go on and live their lives without resorting to type.

Throw away the key this time, he is a danger to be out on the streets

Exactly right, James Bulgers family have had to watch and endure the mollycoddling this vile creature has been unfairly given. He is disgusting.

Kazanne · 23-11-2017, 08:33 AM

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Exactly right, James Bulgers family have had to watch and endure the mollycoddling this vile creature has been unfairly given. He is disgusting.

That's right hijaxers, My mom knows this family on the fathers side, he is an absolutely broken man. This thing Venables has had every opportunity to turn his life around,instead he continues to be the vermin and filthy gett he has always been,and the money that we have paid out TWICE for his new identity could have been so much better used,he is an adult now,no excuses lock the pervert up for good, and if people want to see broken,go look up Ralph Bulger and tell him Venables has a hard life,poor sod!!!! they just didn't destroy James (in the most horrendous way)they destroyed his whole family,bastards.

Beso · 23-11-2017, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

would you really? I think it has already been established he came from an abusive background with no boundaries, given his age when he was incarcerated he has had many years in rehabilitation, something a lot of adults who came from abusive backgrounds never had any access to and have managed to go on and live their lives without resorting to type.

Throw away the key this time, he is a danger to be out on the streets

not everyone is the same though. yeah, LOCK HIM UP...and use him for research.

Kizzy · 23-11-2017, 06:49 AM

He's a psychopath, give him ian bradys cell and leave him there.

Crimson Dynamo · 23-11-2017, 07:00 AM

this is why he should have been executed and incinerated in a morning, years ago

Kazanne · 23-11-2017, 07:07 AM

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this is why he should have been executed and incinerated in a morning, years ago

Now that sounds more like it .

joeysteele · 23-11-2017, 08:39 AM

This annoys me, this horrific and tragic case was enough for me to ensure this individual was out of society for life.
Here it goes again.
All the opportunities of new identities, no doubt being run after too by professionals as to help,that most could only dream of.

For me however,this in the news again,must constantly tear his Mum and dad apart,having it highlighted again as this person who took away their wonderful son,gets headlines.

The horror of that cruel act must be with them every day anyway, then to have to see what this persons done with new freedom.
Must disgust but really hurt them more and more.

Really sick.

Kazanne · 23-11-2017, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

This annoys me, this horrific and tragic case was enough for me to ensure this individual was out of society for life.
Here it goes again.
All the opportunities of new identities, no doubt being run after too by professionals as to help,that most could only dream of.

For me however,this in the news again,must constantly tear his Mum and dad apart,having it highlighted again as this person who took away their wonderful son,gets headlines.

The horror of that cruel act must be with them every day anyway, then to have to see what this persons done with new freedom.
Must disgust but really hurt them more and more.

Really sick.

Imo Joey,justice was never done for James, there was always the do gooders that knew better than anyone else and wanted to go easy on them,yeah,looks like it.

joeysteele · 23-11-2017, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Imo Joey,justice was never done for James, there was always the do gooders that knew better than anyone else and wanted to go easy on them,yeah,looks like it.

I obviously agree.

For me,it is trying to comprehend the sadness,trauma and hurt Jamie's parents and family must suffer through
this individual.

Likely never is anger more justified that they must have as to this,and especially Venable's new arrest again.