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Northern Monkey · 03-01-2018, 09:31 AM

Honestly it’s like being back at school “girls are better than boys,boys are better than girls rah rah rah”
Is Big Brother just perpetuating division?

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Oliver_W · 03-01-2018, 09:34 AM

I don't think there was anything about a "war of the sexes" in the launch? Unless you think celebrating females and their right to vote is a slight against men?

Northern Monkey · 03-01-2018, 09:41 AM

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I don't think there was anything about a "war of the sexes" in the launch? Unless you think celebrating females and their right to vote is a slight against men?

I think men and women can celebrate that without removing men from the launch and banning them from the crowd.It all just came over abit pretentious and boring tbh.

Niamh. · 03-01-2018, 09:46 AM

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I think men and women can celebrate that without removing men from the launch and banning them from the crowd.It all just came over abit pretentious and boring tbh.

So celebrate it by just having a normal CBB then?

Northern Monkey · 03-01-2018, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

So celebrate it by just having a normal CBB then?

They can still have the theme.Just take the sexism out.Show that feminism is about equality and not further perpetuate the feminazi stereotype.

Niamh. · 03-01-2018, 10:00 AM

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They can still have the theme.Just take the sexism out.Show that feminism is about equality and not further perpetuate the feminazi stereotype.

If they had the theme but had male HMs in on launch people would still be complaining and shouting feminazi

Robodog · 03-01-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think men and women can celebrate that without removing men from the launch and banning them from the crowd.It all just came over abit pretentious and boring tbh.

Exactly.

That's not the approach of equality, it's just another version of gender supremacy but flipped on its head.

Like saying:

'We believe men have had all the power and that's wrong - so now we are going to show how wrong that is - by doing the exact same thing in reverse!'

It's pretty basic and silly. And of course pretty hypocritical.

If you think the idea of one gender holding all the cards is so bad - why do the exact same thing then?

Empty gestures really. It makes out like someting serious is happening but really it's just another BB 'theme'

Niamh. · 03-01-2018, 12:59 PM

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Exactly.

That's not the approach of equality, it's just another version of gender supremacy but flipped on its head.

Like saying:

'We believe men have had all the power and that's wrong - so now we are going to show how wrong that is - by doing the exact same thing in reverse!'

It's pretty basic and silly. And of course pretty hypocritical.

If you think the idea of one gender holding all the cards is so bad - why do the exact same thing then?

Empty gestures really. It makes out like someting serious is happening but really it's just another BB 'theme'

Not when it's done in remembrance of something so specific and momentous as women being able to vote though

Crimson Dynamo · 03-01-2018, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not when it's done in remembrance of something so specific and momentous as women being able to vote though

what by naming a room after one woman who they googled?

Beso · 03-01-2018, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not when it's done in remembrance of something so specific and momentous as women being able to vote though

Should be celebrating the men who gave them it as well then...they are the real heroes here.

bots · 03-01-2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not when it's done in remembrance of something so specific and momentous as women being able to vote though

I think its a contrived and tacky theme that insults the efforts and achievements 100 years ago. It trivialises their achievements

Alf · 03-01-2018, 09:35 AM

Girls are just jealous because we're so much better then them, they're like little slugs!

Spoiler:

Nicky91 · 03-01-2018, 09:36 AM

we will have guys in this series as late entrants ugh, so i like this twist, and when the guys arrive everyone has someone to stan, guy or woman

Niamh. · 03-01-2018, 09:40 AM

Celebrating being a woman and how far we've come since we got the vote isn't a war on men

Northern Monkey · 03-01-2018, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Celebrating being a woman and how far we've come since we got the vote isn't a war on men

But is having a man free zone for a week promoting equality or a gynocentric female superiority complex?

And if they can do that should they reintroduce Yorkie as a male only chocolate bar?

Niamh. · 03-01-2018, 09:48 AM

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But is having a man free zone for a week promoting equality or a gynocentric female superiority complex?

And if they can do that should they reintroduce Yorkie as a male on chocolate bar?

Oh come off it, you really think women are now viewed as superior to men? I don't think so sonny Jim

Livia · 03-01-2018, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Celebrating being a woman and how far we've come since we got the vote isn't a war on men

EXACTLY! Maybe because men gave us such a hard time for so many years some men are now worried that we're going to do the same to them. But we're so much nicer than that and we're looking for equality not superiority. And let's face it, for every woman who wrongly claims that men are inferior to women, there will be a man who still thinks it's okay to say "Show us yer tits, darlin'!"

Niamh. · 03-01-2018, 10:46 AM

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EXACTLY! Maybe because men gave us such a hard time for so many years some men are now worried that we're going to do the same to them. But we're so much nicer than that and we're looking for equality not superiority. And let's face it, for every woman who wrongly claims that men are inferior to women, there will be a man who still thinks it's okay to say "Show us yer tits, darlin'!"

Tom4784 · 03-01-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Celebrating being a woman and how far we've come since we got the vote isn't a war on men

Exactly, the attitude that it is kinda embodies the stereotypical attitude that men believe everything revolves around them and if it doesn't they'll see it as an attack on themselves.

'Oh? The theme is about female empowerment and celebrating the anniversary of the right to vote? But what about meeeeeeeee!?'

Niamh. · 03-01-2018, 10:55 AM

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Exactly, the attitude that it is kinda embodies the stereotypical attitude that men believe everything revolves around them and if it doesn't they'll see it as an attack on themselves.

'Oh? The theme is about female empowerment and celebrating the anniversary of the right to vote? But what about meeeeeeeee!?'

I just don't see the issue, getting the vote was a major historical thing for women and society in general and should be celebrated, i don't know why some people are trying to make it about something it isn't

Jamie89 · 03-01-2018, 11:06 AM

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I just don't see the issue, getting the vote was a major historical thing for women and society in general and should be celebrated, i don't know why some people are trying to make it about something it isn't

This. I do think some people are kind of missing the point with all of this. It's not about saying women are superior, it's celebrating something specific that happened in our history (which only needed to happen in the first place because men were seen as superior). If you want to be angry at any part of this be angry about that being our history. The women who fought to change things deserve to be remembered and celebrated, even if it is by way of a crass reality TV show

Livia · 03-01-2018, 10:57 AM

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Exactly, the attitude that it is kinda embodies the stereotypical attitude that men believe everything revolves around them and if it doesn't they'll see it as an attack on themselves.

'Oh? The theme is about female empowerment and celebrating the anniversary of the right to vote? But what about meeeeeeeee!?'

Great post...