[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well I dunno, I dont know how sexuality works lol. I'm not sure about India but there are a lot of transwomen who I think most straight men would be sexually attracted to if they didn't know they were trans

But that is a facade. It isn’t exactly as it says on the tin is it. The psychological aspect is equally as important to many as the physical aspect. All the critique in the world cannot change the feelings of the innermost sanctum. To many it just wouldn’t feel right which would kill the sexual attraction.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It does become a bit more complicated if the transperson passes as the sex they want to be, granted. But even then there are issues about...transwomen will most likely have a dick, and if not then they will not have an actual vagina, which is kind of a dealbreaker for a lot of people.

If someone passed 100% as a woman, could you shag them and their penis? Or get over the fact that their vagina is not a vagina, its an open wound that needs dilating and is either made of inverted penis or colon? Nothing like a 'real' vagina'.

I know this is personal...just curious how many men would be able to get over their sexuality in that way, as I suspect a lot of people just pay lip service to it and would not actually be able to do it. I am bi and still could not see myself ever with a transperson...and sex is not even important for me as I like both!

Well when you put it like that..

I mean the honest answer is I wouldn't know until the situation arose, its not like physical and even sexual attraction is solely defined by how the genitals look though

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well when you put it like that..

I mean the honest answer is I wouldn't know until the situation arose, its not like physical and even sexual attraction is solely defined by how the genitals look though

Well no, but I don't know about you...genitals are a pretty big part of my sex life

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well when you put it like that..

I mean the honest answer is I wouldn't know until the situation arose, its not like physical and even sexual attraction is solely defined by how the genitals look though

Well most genitals are pretty gross looking tbh.

But doesn't it go beyond that? A false penis won't feel like a real one and neither will a false vagina. And how it feels impacts your sex life in a big way.

[Vicky.]

Put quite simply, if sex did not matter...then everyone would be bi. But sex does matter, hence heterosexual, homosexual AND bi. I find this pretending that sexuality needs to be 'got over', that sex is not a real thing, or that strap ons are the same as real dicks...fairly offensive actually. As is the instance in a few places that its horrendous and bigotted if someone would not consider shagging a transperson...as if it a transwoman is exactly the same as a woman, and a transman is exactly the same as a man. Ignoring the fact that its NOT the same as scientists have not discovered how to do total body swaps yet.

I mean, we can pretend we think there is no difference, but its not true it is. Its 'nice' to pretend you cannot see a difference between India and the other women in there, to pretend that a person who spend 50 years as a man and now looks vaguely like a woman due to advances in plastic surgery and messing around with synthetic hormones, is the same as someone who is a biological woman, but its just lies.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well most genitals are pretty gross looking tbh.

Well yes, not exactly the prettiest things

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well most genitals are pretty gross looking tbh.

But doesn't it go beyond that? A false penis won't feel like a real one and neither will a false vagina. And how it feels impacts your sex life in a big way.

Sure but lots of things can affect your sex life, it might not be the same but it might still be better than sex with a 'normal male/female sometimes is

I mean straight men and women obviously do go out with and marry transwomen and transmen so does that mean they're not really straight or what?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Sure but lots of things can affect your sex life, it might not be the same but it might still be better than sex with a 'normal male/female sometimes is

I mean straight men and women obviously do go out with and marry transwomen and transmen so does that mean they're not really straight or what?

I don't know what it means for their sexual orientation tbh. There's 100s of labels these days that I don't even know what they mean.

I was just saying that the trans people who are post op, their genitals are still not the same as the real thing so it's a valid reason to be turned off by the artificial ones.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Sure but lots of things can affect your sex life, it might not be the same but it might still be better than sex with a 'normal male/female sometimes is

I mean straight men and women obviously do go out with and marry transwomen and transmen so does that mean they're not really straight or what?

Gay men sometimes marry women, does it make them not gay?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't know what it means for their sexual orientation tbh. There's 100s of labels these days that I don't even know what they mean.

I was just saying that the trans people who are post op, their genitals are still not the same as the real thing so it's a valid reason to be turned off by the artificial ones.

Yeah I can see that it's a turn off, I'm not convinced this all impacts someone's sexuality though

Originally Posted by jaxie

Gay men sometimes marry women, does it make them not gay?

Gay men living a lie, are you saying straight men who marry transwomen are living a lie or what

[Marsh.]

Oh. It depends.

It would be like saying a straight woman who marries an effeminate man must be gay or bi.

[Marsh.]

But speaking of the genitals. How do they get erect?

Is the surgery that good or do they have to blow it up?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But speaking of the genitals. How do they get erect?

Is the surgery that good or do they have to blow it up?

A pump inside one of the testicles :S

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

A pump inside one of the testicles :S

Not here for them pulling a foot pump out.

[Marsh.]

How does the vagina get wet? Or do I not want to know? :/

[LeatherTrumpet]

feck me you would need plan having sex a week before

2 trips to BQ and you would be ready

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How does the vagina get wet? Or do I not want to know? :/

The ones made from colon have a natural lubricant (as guts...have a lubricant ). Other I expect needs lube.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The ones made from colon have a natural lubricant (as guts...have a lubricant ). Other I expect needs lube.

But surely that would make it wet all the time.

[Vicky.]

I don't know. Tbh the thought of a vagina made out of ass weirded me out too much. I have done a lot of reading on trans stuff in the past year but that one just freaked me out way too much to read beyond the basics

[chuff me dizzy]

Jesus ,my dinners nearly ready

[Vicky.]

I do know, since we are going into that territory, that a common side effect is growing hair INSIDE the 'vagina'. Which is a charming thought.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't know. Tbh the thought of a vagina made out of ass weirded me out too much. I have done a lot of reading on trans stuff in the past year but that one just freaked me out way too much to read beyond the basics

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I do know, since we are going into that territory, that a common side effect is growing hair INSIDE the 'vagina'. Which is a charming thought.

They use the actual hairy ass? :/

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

They use the actual hairy ass? :/

Oh no, this is the penile inversion method I think. Just remember reading a lot of people pretty distraught on reddit asktransgender about how they have finally gone through with the invasive surgery and it looks nothing like a vagina, has next to no feeling and has started sprouting hair from the inside. The replies said this was common.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Oh no, this is the penile inversion method I think. Just remember reading a lot of people pretty distraught on reddit asktransgender about how they have finally gone through with the invasive surgery and it looks nothing like a vagina, has next to no feeling and has started sprouting hair from the inside. The replies said this was common.

Yikes.