[EspeonBB]

Like What kind of messy comparison is that?

I wish Malika was in the room when she said that, she would clock her

[Jake.]

I found it completely inappropriate and, well, wrong.

[reece(:]

Does she even believe what she's saying, idek anymore

[smudgie]

Does she actually believe any of the bollox she says?

[Vicky.]

Was really really wrong. I can't believe noone picked her up on that, Malika would have ate her alive.

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

I wish Malika was in the room when she said that, she would clock her

this

[Withano]

Shes a ****ing ****

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Does she even believe what she's saying, idek anymore

Probably not, she could be doing the hopkins persona.

[Greg!]

She's a complete mess. I can't decide if I want her out or not though.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Like What kind of messy comparison is that?

I wish Malika was in the room when she said that, she would clock her

Wtf ! , please eject this ignorant idiot BB .
she originally said they look like clowns , so when did this huge leap get to "Black face" . She's probably trolling .

[Jamie89]

I think it comes down to her seemingly total lack of consideration for other people. It didn't matter if it might be a problematic or offensive thing to say, as long as it got her point across. I can't think of any other reason except pure self centeredness (I don't think she's actually trying to be offensive or cause controversy and I don't think she's ignorant either :/ )

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Like What kind of messy comparison is that?

I wish Malika was in the room when she said that, she would clock her

Yes I noticed, it was very inappropriate.

Also she is using it to say she is bothered by anyone dressing as a woman, and yet there are seven women in that house who aren't upset at all and are accepting both of India and Shane/Courtney. I wonder what that really says about India.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Yes I noticed, it was very inappropriate.

Also she is using it to say she is bothered by anyone dressing as a woman, and yet there are seven women in that house who aren't upset at all and are accepting both of India and Shane/Courtney. I wonder what that really says about India.

Here is the thing, she was applying this phobia to when she was a man, however, she is now a woman as she keeps on telling everyone, at which point that phobia/anxiety should disappear, but it hasn't, therefore she isn't comfortable as she is

[rusticgal]

She has aligned herself to John Barnes. She thinks she has found in him a friend who will support her 'discrimination' and sob story. I think she hoped John was going to support her by mentioning colour and black people...as he has already spoke about racism in football.
She obviously has serious issues....she has a huge chip on her shoulder and just loves playing the victim...it's all she has done since she has been in there and no matter how much acceptance she has had in there..it's not enough. She talks ****e, constantly wanting attention and centre stage

[Shaun]

In a sense I have some sympathy because I think she may think that she's wasted so much of her life in a different gendered body because it wasn't at all socially acceptable until maybe 5 years ago max., and now she is past her prime as a sexually-desirable person, she gets pissed off whenever (young, attractive) drag queens are confident and loud and expressive.

As a fan of Drag Race I've noticed there's been a difficult area between trans and drag for a while: trans people getting pissed off with drag queens colloquially using the terms "******" and "shemale" as umbrella terms for themselves (RuPaul herself has a song called '****** Chasers' - a term for men who desire men who dress as women; it's a conflation of terms and often leads to accusations that drag queens undermine what - especially MTF - trans people are)

But the weirdest thing is this doesn't even seem to be the source of what India even puts across, she's instead going for this literal, physical fear angle that's just absurd (see: Hannah afraid of blue people in BB18) and makes her look like an idiot.

The intention of blackface was to imitate an entirely different race with the intention of dehumanising them and making them "a thing to laugh at". The intention of drag is to imitate an entirely different gender with the intention of celebrating and worshipping them and their beauty/stage presence/sexuality, there's a pretty major difference.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

In a sense I have some sympathy because I think she may think that she's wasted so much of her life in a different gendered body because it wasn't at all socially acceptable until maybe 5 years ago max., and now she is past her prime as a sexually-desirable person, she gets pissed off whenever (young, attractive) drag queens are confident and loud and expressive.

As a fan of Drag Race I've noticed there's been a difficult area between trans and drag for a while: trans people getting pissed off with drag queens colloquially using the terms "******" and "shemale" as umbrella terms for themselves (RuPaul herself has a song called '****** Chasers' - a term for men who desire men who dress as women; it's a conflation of terms and often leads to accusations that drag queens undermine what - especially MTF - trans people are)

But the weirdest thing is this doesn't even seem to be the source of what India even puts across, she's instead going for this literal, physical fear angle that's just absurd (see: Hannah afraid of blue people in BB18) and makes her look like an idiot.

The intention of blackface was to imitate an entirely different race with the intention of dehumanising them and making them "a thing to laugh at". The intention of drag is to imitate an entirely different gender with the intention of celebrating and worshipping them and their beauty/stage presence/sexuality, there's a pretty major difference.

Ahh I forgot about that

[Macie Lightfoot]

I mean... I'm not saying India is right in any regard, but this isn't a comparison that totally came out of the blue. For different reasons, it's one that's been made before.

I don't think it's totally unrealistic to expect someone who didn't transition until fairly recently to still have some leftover nerves and anxiety over being perceived as a man dressed as a woman rather than simply being perceived as A Woman. ****, I may be totally out of line since I'm only Wiki watching but I think I read somewhere that India mentioned this explicitly? We're dealing with someone who has a huuuuge plethora of issues regarding how she sees herself and how she wants others to see her, and while she absolutely is overbearing and not exactly to likable, I feel like a lot of people (on the interwebs in general, not necessarily in this thread) have been rather insensitive to her plight and would have an issue with her no matter how she reacted. Like, even if she quietly removed herself from the situation and didn't make a big stink about it, surely someone would make a thread here about That India and how her mask is slipping and how she's vying for attention and sympathy.

But even with all of that being said, the guy dressing up in drag clearly was clearly not being malicious and seemed very sincere in his apologies to India, and of course India did a poor job expressing how she feels so

[GoldHeart]

That editing is terrible of the hl show , it looked like John wanted to say something but gave up in the end as India twat face was hogging the lime light .

Why are people apologising and defending themselves to her all the time ,i'm tired of it . Her phobia is BS there's photo's of her with drag queens and i wish BB leaked the photo's on the big screen for the other hm's to see !! , let's see how she talks her way out of that!.

Her reaction when Andrew came out was like she'd seen a axe murderer covered in blood !!! . she's clinically insane and BB should remove her and book her into therapy .

Everything she did was all for attention and her behaviour was so melodramatic , she's insufferable . why do people bother reasoning with her when it's pointless and she's ruining everyone's experience in BB !!. they all tell her they didn't mean an offence and she still moans and bitches . And she once again had to drag Ginuwine into a argument by saying he doesn't see her as a woman . Leave the guy alone jeeeez !!! .

[chuff me dizzy]

She was after back up when she had made a complete twat of herself, so wanted to drag John into her row as back up

[chuff me dizzy]

She's Kellie Maloney mark 2 ,and to think OUR money is being spent on making these 2 happier in their bodies, when neither of them are

[LeatherTrumpet]

Essentially she wants everyone to be on her page and she sees people laughing at men in drag she feels they are laughing at her - i get that but her problem is she has no sense of humour and i am afraid that is what you need in her situation. Through the TL i have met quite a few trans women and all have had a good sense of humour and can use that to deal with situations like last night.

she is just a miserable old bag and unless she changes that new vag will not be getting ruined anytime soon

[chuff me dizzy]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

[chuff me dizzy]

https://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/bi...ag-phobia.html

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