[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I would agree with her after their public displays of foreplay in the house, they both said they got aroused.

There are 12 people who have to put up with them horsing around.

I feel the same about Genuwine and Ashley too.

thankyou exactly

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

She is not voting about gay rights in the CBB house, she was commenting on what was being presented to her as a jibe.

Over analysis

No she was outright asked if she agreed if 2 men should be allowed to marry and she said NO.

"A marriage is between a man and a woman"

Are people just arguing on here for the sake of it because to me that's black and white.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

thankyou exactly

I would add, what they did in private was their own business but I did not want to see it. Both couples. I don't even want to see it on TV.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I would add, what they did in private was their own business but I did not want to see it. Both couples. I don't even want to see it on TV.

That's why i stopped watching , i'm sick of them .

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

No she was outright asked if she agreed if 2 men should be allowed to marry and she said NO.

"A marriage is between a man and a woman"

Are people just arguing on here for the sake of it because to me that's black and white.

It's a free country, it is her opinion and it is more down to religious teachings than anything else.

Go and have a word with the Pope.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

It's a free country, it is her opinion and it is more down to religious teachings than anything else.

Go and have a word with the Pope.

And other religions have similar beliefs on that matter.
Everyone is different ,some are strict with their views and others are more open minded .

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Ok let me ask you a question then .

If you didn't know Ann atall (let's imagine she's a nobody and not a well known MP) , with no background history or anything apart from her age and where she lives and her marital status . There's no other information about her.


And if you heard her still say Andrew & Shane J are disgusting (or whatever she said) then what would you think of Ann? .

First of all don't try and trip me up.

I would not be happy with anyone discriminating against any relationship.

What gives a person a right to think they have superiority over a relationship they deem unacceptable though?

It's just ****ing gross.

Everyone has a right to their opinion though as ive said time and time again and I'm glad this year bb has allowed housemates to speak their mind with ought warnings as its back to a social experiment.

I do wish Shane j would lower his balls back into his sack and give her an education in the fight the LGBTQ community has had to go through which she seems to have no concept of.....though it would be like talking to a brick.....bitch doesn't absourb any information pre 1970.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

First of all don't try and trip me up.

I would not be happy with anyone discriminating against any relationship.

What gives a person a right to think they have superiority over a relationship they deem unacceptable though?

It's just ****ing gross.

Everyone has a right to their opinion though as ive said time and time again and I'm glad this year bb has allowed housemates to speak their mind with ought warnings as its back to a social experiment.

I do wish Shane j would lower his balls back into his sack and give her an education in the fight the LGBTQ community has had to go through which she seems to have no concept of.....though it would be like talking to a brick.....bitch doesn't absourb any information pre 1970.

Sweeping generalities are not facts.

Ann could hold her own politically with anyone, even today's mealy mouthed lot.

That last paragraph does you no credit.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I would agree with her after their public displays of foreplay in the house, they both said they got aroused.

There are 12 people who have to put up with them horsing around.

I feel the same about Genuwine and Ashley too.

My god...2 single people horsing around?

We must alert the church elders!

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

My god...2 single people horsing around?

We must alert the church elders!

What a cutting little remark, well done. if I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

First of all don't try and trip me up.

I would not be happy with anyone discriminating against any relationship.

What gives a person a right to think they have superiority over a relationship they deem unacceptable though?

It's just ****ing gross.

Everyone has a right to their opinion though as ive said time and time again and I'm glad this year bb has allowed housemates to speak their mind with ought warnings as its back to a social experiment.

I do wish Shane j would lower his balls back into his sack and give her an education in the fight the LGBTQ community has had to go through which she seems to have no concept of.....though it would be like talking to a brick.....bitch doesn't absourb any information pre 1970.

I wasn't trying to trip you up .
It doesn't help the fact that Shane J is crap now at discussions , he just glares at the person and barely inputs anything constructive he's useless . it's ashame they didn't put in a better person or role model for his community .

He doesn't even act his age , it's baffling that a 35 year old can stalk someone and be sex creeping like a 16 year old teenager .

[jet]

Getting into a lather over a trivial throwaway remark from Ann in response to a trivial teasing remark from Shane J and Andrew is overkill. Every word that passes from the HM's mouths are over - analysed on here. It's all a bit silly really.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Sweeping generalities are not facts.

Ann could hold her own politically with anyone, even today's mealy mouthed lot.

That last paragraph does you no credit.

Ann only holds her own.....all she does is speak over anyone and that's how she was excepted in parliament because she could stand up to the men.

She's formed a habit and that's shown in the house when she's sided on the men's side constantly.

In regards to the gay issue she has no experience in that sector growing up under a strict rich upbringing and was taught to be a certain way....aka against gays being able to marry.

Ann has no experience of the real world outside her house, parliment full of testosterone and her cats.

It baffles me how someone with such little life experience could hold court for decades. I come from a small village in Wales and it's shocking how well balanced us sheep shaggers are over some private school educated woman who has no grip on the modern world.

Don't get me wrong we both agree she's a good housemate but I and most of the country never liked the woman.

Let's get **** real though we are debating over a politician who was thrown around the strictly come dancing floor, parachuted in also and is now on a channel 5 reality show.

[poppsywoppsy]

Here we go again, Ann retired from politics and only went on these TV shows afterwards.

So did Ed Balls, what is the problem, I don't have one.

Ann is still earning money, went on CBB because of the topic and she still gets moaned at.

By the way anywhere near Pontyclun? I went on holiday near there last year.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I wasn't trying to trip you up .
It doesn't help the fact that Shane J is crap now at discussions , he just glares at the person and barely inputs anything constructive he's useless . it's ashame they didn't put in a better person or role model for his community .

He doesn't even act his age , it's baffling that a 35 year old can stalk someone and be sex creeping like a 16 year old teenager .

Shane j is very articulate and very well educated in regards to this issue....way more than Ann is.

I agree with you though he has become like a lost little puppy and fallen for Andrew.

However when he tried to talk to Ann the bitch is so one sided he just gave up being talked over as would I because it was clear he would never get through to her.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Shane j is very articulate and very well educated in regards to this issue....way more than Ann is.

I agree with you though he has become like a lost little puppy and fallen for Andrew.

However when he tried to talk to Ann the bitch is so one sided he just gave up being talked over as would I because it was clear he would never get through to her.

Sorry, he couldn't live in a discussion with her, she had an answer for everything, that's why he gave up. Then he just went into recline, no backbone.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Here we go again, Ann retired from politics and only went on these TV shows afterwards.

So did Ed Balls, what is the problem, I don't have one.

Ann is still earning money, went on CBB because of the topic and she still gets moaned at.

By the way anywhere near Pontyclun? I went on holiday near there last year.

Ed balls didn't call gays sleeping together disgusting but yes I agree he also made a tit of himself on national TV.

Look we both agree she's a cracking housemate yeah?

I'm from Pontlottyn a very very very small town in South wales....I fled as soon as I was 16!

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I didnt see the incident.

I still cant understand Ann popularity TBH. She does things then accuses people of doing the exact same things.

Because she's old and cooky

[JerseyWins]

Idk people... I think she was just disgusted by Andrew & Shane J specifically, which is an accurate feeling to have.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by OnikaChrist

Did y'all just see that?

Andrew and Shane J walked into the kitchen and Shane jokingly said "Ann, even if you won't recognize our marriage, you have to recognize our love" and Ann replied with "that's disgusting".

Then, when Shane J, Andrew and Daniel were discussing what Ann said, Daniel said "We just don't get her humor!! Our grandparents were probably like that!"

Erm.. is that cracker being serious?

Not him defending Ann's homophobia And just because their grandparents were homophobic doesn't mean that it's okay for Ann to be homophobic.

We need to kick out Daniel & Ann during the next eviction

She said : don't be so disgusting! Clearly referring to two men being in love. We all know how she feed about gay marriage, but there was no need for that comment.

[Ammi]

..Ann is an interesting one for sure...I don’t feel her views on certain things are old fashioned as such, in it being an age thing...but more for her, her religious beliefs...I mean, she hasn’t shown any intolerance toward Shane J for instance for who he is and his sexuality...but when he was provoking her for a reaction as he was, she wasn’t comfortable with that...he wasn’t actually showing her respect because the whole thing was purposefully done to prod and he has been someone who has always so far shown great respect and understanding, rather than to actively seek a reaction...I find her interesting because of that blend of her time in parliament and the things she has opposed and been in favour of and how that fits in with her religious beliefs...I guess that many would think that politics and religion shouldn’t ‘mix’..that there is no place for religion and religious beliefs in politics...?...but then wouldn’t that be showing an intolerance and a discrimination against religious beliefs...so it all gets quite complicated...

...she wasn’t comfortable with Shane’s prodding and teasing but she’s been perfectly comfortable with him as a person so far as I can see...and even said, she would be proud of him as a grandson...there’s lots of things I guess that she hasn’t seemed comfortable with...like Ashley and Ginuwine and their more ‘public displays’...probaby another blend of her beliefs in terms of their single status and what she feels should be more private and the new that old..not before marriage thing...as I say she’s interesting because of her own life of very much being a working and independent lady...but then she’s a single as well and always has been...with marrieds and mothers etc... she tends to lean more toward supporting that ‘stay at home mum’...obviously this is all...(..her beliefs and views..)...going to cause a bit of controversy and confliction and those talking points, but I like her a lot as a person and in her character, regardless of anything else...


..one thing I’ve found quite interesting is how much empathy and understanding she’s shown with things like...her upset at the guys in physical pain with that task..and then with Daniel and her being in favour of keeping him over John because she felt his need for ‘validation’ with the public...that shows a real empathy...but then she’s right wing so how does that work because those are character traits that the left leaning are meant to be more associated with......she has a great blend to her character, I think...and is probably the most interesting housemate I’ve ever known...

[Ammi]

..with sexual abuse within the Catholic religion...(sorry ive just read some of the thread...)...she’s not condoning that at all, I mean that just can’t be ‘excused’ by anyone for any reason or any belief system...she’s just separating the actions of some awful people..\..awful individuals who would abuse their power and position..from the religious beliefs of her faith and how she tries to practise it...

[bitontheslide]

As Andrew is not gay, how can she be being homophobic to him? She has always been respectful to everyone in the house, but expects to be treated the same way in return. Andrew and Shane J were NOT respectful to her. Is anyone calling out Shane J and Andrew for their ageist behaviour? Is anyone calling out Shane J and Andrew for their persecution of Ann for her views and her religious beliefs? Nope, they are not.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

As Andrew is not gay, how can she be being homophobic to him? She has always been respectful to everyone in the house, but expects to be treated the same way in return. Andrew and Shane J were NOT respectful to her. Is anyone calling out Shane J and Andrew for their ageist behaviour? Is anyone calling out Shane J and Andrew for their persecution of Ann for her views and her religious beliefs? Nope, they are not.

and she would have said the same if it had been Elgin and Ashley

Sadly if you red flag everything because you have a shiny new red flag the flag will get diluted and fade

One must pick ones battles

[parmnion]

Ann, homophobic..wtf...shes been on strictly and bb......facts say no.