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15-02-2018, 08:31 AM | #26 | |||
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..so we remove the very essence and ethos of a school environment, then..?...the safety that should be there for the students and felt by the students..that whole ‘nurturing’ environment is taken away and arms are taken up by school staff, we create and encourage hostility and weaponry as the ‘solution’..?...we become the very opposite of what should be in any school...I’m not ‘arguing’ or creating an argument at all, Alf...
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15-02-2018, 08:31 AM | #27 | |||
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15-02-2018, 08:35 AM | #28 | |||
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15-02-2018, 09:20 AM | #29 | ||
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The American government always says they will do something, but they end up not doing it and they NEVER learn from their mistakes, it's a shame that due to their actions, many innocent and maybe young lives are lost...
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15-02-2018, 11:28 AM | #30 | |||
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Unfortunately we don't seem shocked over these incidents anymore it happens so often,what the answer is ? I don't know,there will always be lunatics that want their 15 mins of fame in this way, Thoughts with the victims and injured also their families,terrible to see this on the news again.
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15-02-2018, 11:46 AM | #31 | ||
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Difference between bombs and these mass shootings is that it's hard to prevent the former, anyone can get the ingredients to make a bomb and you can only foil plots like those if the person attempting them is particularly stupid.
These mass shootings however are different, in these shootings, it's almost always done with a gun that was purchased legally and would have been easily prevented if the right checks were put in place. You'll never get rid of guns in America, it's too ingrained in the culture but assault rifles and weaponry does not need to be sold to the public and they should do more to check who is actually buying these guns in question. Most Gun owners in the US will never have to use their weapons outside of a controlled environment, it's not them that should be worried about the idea of Gun control because sensible owners shouldn't be affected but you got the NRA with all it's sway preventing anything from happening and then you've got the government who profits too much from the Gun industry to truly ever want to restrict it in any way. They are more than happy with the scores of dead children just as long as the NRA get to play with their guns and the tax money keeps rolling in. |
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15-02-2018, 11:48 AM | #32 | |||
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If anything Trump encouraged this, mr gun nut himself .
In America these gun massacres / shootings are pretty much all the time, it's got to the stage where we're not shocked anymore, we're just more angry and tired with it all as we know nothing will ever change . Too many Americans love their guns and seem to think that's the answer to everything, nearly everyone in the states owns a gun just for the sake of it . They go to the park with their kids while carrying a gun . They go shopping to the supermarket and guns are on display, it's a surreal mess !. 17 lose their lives because once again a deranged lunatic had access to guns and decides to go on a killing spree , no action will be taken. This will continue to happen. Is anywhere safe or protected in America seriously !?? . The place of trigger happy . Last edited by GoldHeart; 15-02-2018 at 11:49 AM. |
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15-02-2018, 11:54 AM | #33 | |||
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Australia had the balls to sort out their gun problem now it's america's turn to stop pretending that 'daily gun deaths & mass shootings' are just normal life in america! where does it end..?? more guns?? more ammo? more security? with NRA members or people that own many guns all saying about their 2nd amendment right .. blah blah blah.. (sure have a handgun & hunting rifle if you must to shoot wabbits during hunting season or protect whats yours home family etc) but should HIGH POWERED guns be so readily available? that have cartridges that fire up to 100 bullets+ ?? the wish is no noone can get them but sadly they have.. Im talking do some not all americans really need 50 guns rocket launchers and many other insane weapons that should be only available if you are in the forces and diployed.... Today you hear blame schools? blame FBI? blame people 'that knew' - blame he was a nut job.. etc how about we blame many things... guns being readily available being just one of them It's time america stop wanting it both ways you can't have a 2nd amendment right when such insane weaponry is readily available without any form of gun control!! and not protect people in the country from those terrible people that do unthinkable things to innocent people... we protect money in banks.. with walls - locks - security - safe etc so why not schools? business? government buildings? post office? etc...are children the innocent victims in grown ups lack of ability to remove their heads from their arse and do something about america's insane gun problem?? (disclaimer i am sure there are some good responsible gun owners over the pond) makes me angry and upset - as a parent I am sure I would home school if I lived over the pond.. PS on a lighter note..I have a home security system.. a baseball bat and run at them naked (eek mental image sorry)
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15-02-2018, 12:43 PM | #34 | |||
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"This debate has become just one part of America’s self-defeating and circular culture wars. To liberal New Yorkers and assorted East Coasters, gun owners can be put in the same categories as evangelical Christians who believe in creationism and who oppose abortion and feminism, while law-abiding gun owners grow ever more resentful of the liberal elite who seek to leave ordinary citizens at the mercy of gangsters and villains who will always carry and use guns, whatever the legal framework currently in effect.
Neither of these stereotypes is wholly accurate, but neither is prepared to shift ground. The more consensual approach, the more conciliatory language demanded for this crisis – and it is a crisis – is as distant today as it has ever been, perhaps even more so. American politics has led this great nation to a point where it is utterly, perhaps irreconcilably, divided, on guns – as in much else." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018...rn-make-peace/ |
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15-02-2018, 12:47 PM | #35 | |||
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i'm so tired of this happening in my country
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15-02-2018, 12:53 PM | #36 | |||
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I am so sorry such terrible innocent loss I truly hope somethings changes over there soon we live in hope
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15-02-2018, 12:57 PM | #37 | ||
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15-02-2018, 01:42 PM | #38 | |||
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I've said It after every one of these mass shootings but the politicians who vote against stricter gun laws or even vote for less gun control in Ameriva are partly responsible for the loss of 17 lives today and should be punished accordingly
If you are ok with the current gun laws in America then you are happy to constantly see children be gunned down and killed - simple as
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15-02-2018, 01:48 PM | #39 | |||
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I don't understand the mentality . ..access to guns aside, kids get suspended from school or bullied every day of the week in every country in the world, why do American kids react in this way...every kid has access to knives but they don't go on the rampage with them after a suspension
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15-02-2018, 01:53 PM | #40 | |||
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the 'right to bear arms' has a lot to answer for!
when the constitution was written didn't they use a musket - gun powder and could load a single pellet(or whatever it was called) ? perhaps it's time for a rethink!
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15-02-2018, 01:53 PM | #41 | |||
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15-02-2018, 02:18 PM | #42 | |||
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The fact that people still defend the gun laws baffles my mind
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15-02-2018, 02:21 PM | #43 | |||
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I feel the same way! It angers me that despite numerous shootings and it continues to happen people in the states have done nothing to try and make things safer! not a single thing...
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15-02-2018, 02:24 PM | #44 | |||
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as I have said many times before people see this as the price one pays for liberal gun laws and they are happy to pay it in a country of 300,000,000 people
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15-02-2018, 02:25 PM | #45 | |||
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These gun enthusiasts have no brain cells , they'll defend their pointless right to own guns till the end of time,things will never change.
The fact a student can go into his own school and massacre kids & teachers like it's the norm just makes us sick & tired of it all . There's zero gun control in America, it's far too easily to own a gun it's scary . Last edited by GoldHeart; 15-02-2018 at 02:27 PM. |
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15-02-2018, 03:09 PM | #46 | |||
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15-02-2018, 03:13 PM | #47 | |||
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yeah or more guns is the answer to these incidents ffs but yeah not even going to bother repeating the same old s**t, nothing will change, too much money involved now
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15-02-2018, 03:16 PM | #48 | |||
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Just for the sake of it people carry guns over there ,it's insane. And it's unhealthy that people feel the need to carry a gun while with their kids in the park . |
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15-02-2018, 05:45 PM | #49 | |||
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One big teacher (sadly died)
took the bullets, saving pupils. A Great Hero |
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15-02-2018, 05:48 PM | #50 | |||
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