[Underscore]

Y'all know how much I disapprove of Theresa but she's doing a pretty good job on Russia if I do say so.

[Kazanne]

The PM is doing a grand job.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The PM is doing a grand job.

Yep. She would have my vote any day if we voted on just foreign affairs.

[Smithy]

How is Corbyn meant to deal with it when he isn’t PM? He can comment but it’s not like he can act

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Smithy

How is Corbyn meant to deal with it when he isn’t PM? He can comment but it’s not like he can act

I meant in terms of his reaction

[Tom4784]

It doesn't matter, this obsession with Corbyn is just a distraction for most people, a meaningless distraction. It'll be years until the next election and we need to focus on the here and now.

[Toy Soldier]

I fink Theresa might win bcos she has been teh most consistent lol but mayb Jeremy mite win bcos he has bn more entertaining at times but I gess well find out when the finals night comes.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Underscore

I meant in terms of his reaction

Who has had a better reaction to a Russian poisoning?

But if an odd thread to make I guess but ok

[Northern Monkey]

After watching this play out for a few days i’m going for neither.Plus this Corbyn vs May crap is below the severity of this situation.This is’nt Big Brother.If this goes tits up the losers will be all of us.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I fink Theresa might win bcos she has been teh most consistent lol but mayb Jeremy mite win bcos he has bn more entertaining at times but I gess well find out when the finals night comes.

Exactly!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Y'all know how much I disapprove of Theresa but she's doing a pretty good job on Russia if I do say so.

Well it certainly isn’t Corbyn is it - all useless talk and no action!

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Well it certainly isn’t Corbyn is it - all useless talk and no action!

But in all seriousness, corbyn is as able to act as you or i. He is not able to do anything as leader of the opposition other than give his opinion

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

But in all seriousness, corbyn is as able to act as you or i. He is not able to do anything as leader of the opposition other than give his opinion

He could have put his political ideals aside for this and stood by his country to show bullies like Putin that Britain won’t cow down to him and his threats.

He is more than you and I in the political arena as the potential next PM with a lot of young people following his every word - so although I understand what you are saying, I think he had a responsibility to support the current government on this issue. It is bigger than party politics.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

But in all seriousness, corbyn is as able to act as you or i. He is not able to do anything as leader of the opposition other than give his opinion

Indeed.

I would say neither, too. But this ****ing ridiculous May V Corbyn stuff is so annoying now. On an issue as large as this, its still just tit for tat bickering and 'my dick is bigger than your dick' nonsense.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Well it certainly isn’t Corbyn is it - all useless talk and no action!

How can he take action when he's not PM?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

How can he take action when he's not PM?

He could stand with the government as other Labour MPs did. This is not about him being PM but about the country.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

He could stand with the government as other Labour MPs did. This is not about him being PM but about the country.

Oooh, I get it, you want him to stop spouting the opinion he's entitled to have and get in line with everyone else.

How very 1984.

[DemolitionRed]

May and Johnson lied when they claimed we had the entire backing of the UN. The French government thought we were being too hasty and wanted further investigations before any action was taken. The Italian government also wanted more concrete proof. You don't need a long memory to recall Blair making the same false claim about weapons of mass destruction and going to war in Iran.

Russian news is saying that the British government did this to take the nations eye off all the internal squabbling in parliament. I don't believe that but what if the Russian government are innocent in this? what have we done and without any real proof?

I don't know what to think to be honest. After the heinous lies Thatcher did with the Falklands and the lie upon lie Blairs spun out to the public about WMD, I don't trust the British government anymore than I trust the Russian government.

I think the Russians did this but I don't think it was the Russian government but that's just a strong hunch.

The thing is, what was the point in killing him? If the Russians wanted to kill someone in a foreign country, why would they use a nerve agent that could be traced back to them? There's no clear motive for doing it. The method used is irrational unless you wanted to make a statement that it was a Russian assassination and that would be a deliberate provocation to go to war. The nerve agent is the most puzzling thing in this whole sorry affair.

[Toy Soldier]

Indeed DR. The narrative is that the Russian government carried out an assassination using a nerve agent that could only have come from a Russian source, clearly announcing that it was them, when they could have used any one of dozens of alternative - and less traceable - methods ... But then when asked about it, decided to deny it.

There's absolutely zero logic in any of it. If they didn't care about people knowing it was them, they would just admit to it. If they DID care about people knowing it was them, they SURELY wouldn't have used a Russian nerve agent. There are only two possible options really. Either there are an awful lot of completely, utterly, comically incompetent people in high up positions on world government and intelligence... Or we're not being told even a fraction of the whole story. I know which I think is more likely.

[Northern Monkey]

I think it is likely that it could be Russia leaving a calling card but then denying it publicly on the world stage.They do have form for this kind of thing.
Show the Russian people how much reach Putin has etc.But then again it would be an incredibly risky and brazen act.Would they go as far as to use a nerve agent?
However nobody is certain.It may not be.It’s perplexing because to me the arguments for and against both make sense.
But i think caution and clear heads are of paramount importance.Also evidence.Maybe our secret services know more than we’re being told.But if not we shouldn’t be rushing into escalating tensions even more.

[MTVN]

Russia would never outright admit what is a flagrant breach of international law. It is quite possible though that they are happy for both other governments and potential targets like Skripov to know that they can carry out this sort of thing and also largely get away with it. It's obvious from their reaction that they don't really give a s**t about the whole thing

[Kizzy]

We have had rational discussion from Corbyn, from the tories? Distasteful popularity parades through Salisbury... Fist bumps, hashtags and what looks like a jumped up tea boy telling putin to 'shut up.'

LOL

[Firewire]

May talks ****e, always has always will!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I fink Theresa might win bcos she has been teh most consistent lol but mayb Jeremy mite win bcos he has bn more entertaining at times but I gess well find out when the finals night comes.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Well it certainly isn’t Corbyn is it - all useless talk and no action!

He isn't Prime Minister!