[Nicky91]

and there should also be a rule only the stronger characters are allowed to nominate and to get rid of all the boring dull hm's

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

and there should also be a rule only the stronger characters are allowed to nominate and to get rid of all the boring dull hm's

I'm not sure you know what back to basics means

[ethanjames]

lol this isn't gonna happen but ok

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Epic.

I'm not sure you know what back to basics means

yes that you have nothing, no luxury and that sort of things, right


me perched for some spoilt rich princess girls in the house then, ''back to basics'' no luxury for them is a disaster, but good fun for us, to hear them moan

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

and there should also be a rule only the stronger characters are allowed to nominate and to get rid of all the boring dull hm's

irony at its best

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yes that you have nothing, no luxury and that sort of things, right


me perched for some spoilt rich princess girls in the house then, ''back to basics'' no luxury for them is a disaster, but good fun for us, to hear them moan

oh i get what you mean, housemates such as Georgina?

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yes that you have nothing, no luxury and that sort of things, right


me perched for some spoilt rich princess girls in the house then, ''back to basics'' no luxury for them is a disaster, but good fun for us, to hear them moan

No. Back to Basics is normal Nominations and little to nine twists.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by supertv247

"Big Brother to go back to 'science experiment' roots in bid to save hit show"

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-...mpression=true

Originally Posted by BBUK-Fan

With the right promotion, it'll be good

Originally Posted by TomC

Really hoping this is true

Deja vu to this conversation every damn year.

Originally Posted by scarface95

They should sack the current producers and get the BB13 producers back. They were they only ones who were good, creative and original.

Not really. Any fan of that series will even admit it was all about the housemates (as it should be tbh). The production was as diabolical as ever.

[LaLaLand]

- Bring back the chickens, mangle and the veg patch.

- NO MAKEUP COUNTERS!!! With one or two hours of hot water, electricity access per day only.

- HAVE COMPLETE NOBODIES, absolutely no previous TV appearances/connections.

- Week long, 24/7 tasks that affect prize money and actually need effort from EVERYBODY.

- Huge age, nationality, culture and opinion ranges. Also multiple religions.

Then we good.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Deja vu to this conversation every damn year.



Not really. Any fan of that series will even admit it was all about the housemates (as it should be tbh). The production was as diabolical as ever.

The production of BB13 was totally fine?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

The production of BB13 was totally fine?

On Day 1, Deana was randomly selected to enter as the first housemate and Big Brother rewarded her with immunity from the first eviction. In exchange for this reward, she had to nominate three housemates based solely on her first impression of them. She nominated Conor, Victoria, and Lydia.

Sure jan.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not really. Any fan of that series will even admit it was all about the housemates (as it should be tbh). The production was as diabolical as ever.

Yeah. It wasn't as apparent as the later seasons but it wasn't perfect either.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

- Bring back the chickens, mangle and the veg patch.

- NO MAKEUP COUNTERS!!! With one or two hours of hot water, electricity access per day only.

- HAVE COMPLETE NOBODIES, absolutely no previous TV appearances/connections.

- Week long, 24/7 tasks that affect prize money and actually need effort from EVERYBODY.

- Huge age, nationality, culture and opinion ranges. Also multiple religions.

Then we good.

We want another BB6 not BB2!

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Jason.

We want another BB6 not BB2!

I'd rather a more BB5 vibe. Remember those tasks with the nettles? Fab!

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Sure jan.

I mean it's totally uninspired but it's the sort of twist they'd do in BB3 and 4 so I don't really get what the problem is

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

I mean it's totally uninspired but it's the sort of twist they'd do in BB3 and 4 so I don't really get what the problem is

A secret room is what they did in BB5, doesn't make the Crypt and the White Room any less production disasters.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

A secret room is what they did in BB5, doesn't make the Crypt and the White Room any less production disasters.

You never said what makes BB13 launch twist any worse than the BB4 one? Of course White Room is an inferior twist to the Bedsit, but they're also pretty idea. Personally I think the White Room was a good idea with a ****ty result.

BB13's production was no worse than BB7 onwards on C4 - perhaps better

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

You never said what makes BB13 launch twist any worse than the BB4 one? Of course White Room is an inferior twist to the Bedsit, but they're also pretty idea. Personally I think the White Room was a good idea with a ****ty result.

BB13's production was no worse than BB7 onwards on C4 - perhaps better

Well first night nominations was still a fair process of every housemate nominating in the privacy of the diary room.

BB13 picked out Deana (apparently randomly) and put her on the spot to nominate someone (in front of the whole house) because they gave her a funny look, immediately ending that person's BB experience.

So the difference in the old twists and those ones was clearly one remembering the fundamentals of the game, and the other completely ignored them.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well first night nominations was still a fair process of every housemate nominating in the privacy of the diary room.

BB13 picked out Deana (apparently randomly) and put her on the spot to nominate someone (in front of the whole house) because they gave her a funny look, immediately ending that person's BB experience.

So the difference in the old twists and those ones was clearly one remembering the fundamentals of the game, and the other completely ignored them.

So what about kinga getting evicted by Makosi after 3 days and Jonathan by Aisleyne after 5? Are BB6 and 7's productions therefore diabolical?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

So what about kinga getting evicted by Makosi after 3 days and Jonathan by Aisleyne after 5? Are BB6 and 7's productions therefore diabolical?

BB7 had terrible missteps in production in its second half (I don't recall saying it was perfect, maybe the post was deleted?).

But I would say, at the very least Kinga and Jonathan were newbies and also described as having to win their places in the game. They were not housemates.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

BB7 had terrible missteps in production in its second half (I don't recall saying it was perfect, maybe the post was deleted?).

But I would say, at the very least Kinga and Jonathan were newbies and also described as having to win their places in the game. They were not housemates.

Indeed, BB7 did have missteps in its production, just as perhaps BB13 did. I believe if you're saying BB13's production was 'diabolical', the only thing that would satisfy such a person would be to return to BB1-4 style which, of course, is unrealistic, and unfair.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

Indeed, BB7 did have missteps in its production, just as perhaps BB13 did. I believe if you're saying BB13's production was 'diabolical', the only thing that would satisfy such a person would be to return to BB1-4 style which, of course, is unrealistic, and unfair.

How is it unfair?

No, I haven't asked to return to any styles. I think any such attempt would come across as a poor reproduction because they can't even produce their own ideas convincingly.

Returning to those series approach to the game, twists and them being actually equal, fair and consistent is something I would champion. How that is unfair is anyone's guess.

And, no, I'm not referring to BB7 which was around the time the rules started to change dependent on which housemate it affected (Nikki being a prime example).

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How is it unfair?

No, I haven't asked to return to any styles. I think any such attempt would come across as a poor reproduction because they can't even produce their own ideas convincingly.

Returning to those series approach to the game, twists and them being actually equal, fair and consistent is something I would champion. How that is unfair is anyone's guess.

And, no, I'm not referring to BB7 which was around the time the rules started to change dependent on which housemate it affected (Nikki being a prime example).

The BIB is exactly what I meant by 'style'. Expecting to return to those days is 'unfair' because the game has been far removed from that for over a decade now.

What this really comes down to however, is that you believe BB13's production was poor, and I disagree.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

The BIB is exactly what I meant by 'style'. Expecting to return to those days is 'unfair' because the game has been far removed from that for over a decade now..

It's not though. They can have the game "far removed" from what it was, but make it fair.

Currently, the housemates may nominate, then the producers take a day or two to come up with what "rule" nominations will have that particular week to ensure they get what they want.

If they want to make the nomination rule "anyone who even receives a single nom gets put up for the public vote" then that's fine. But make it so every week, instead of next week it being "all housemates with names beginning with M".

Whatever format or style they want is fine, it just needs to be produced well, consistent and applied fairly, otherwise there's simply no point to it at all.

Originally Posted by TomC

What this really comes down to however, is that you believe BB13's production was poor, and I disagree.

It's your prerogative to enjoy the crappy produced series.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's not though. They can have the game "far removed" from what it was, but make it fair.

Currently, the housemates may nominate, then the producers take a day or two to come up with what "rule" nominations will have that particular week to ensure they get what they want.

If they want to make the nomination rule "anyone who even receives a single nom gets put up for the public vote" then that's fine. But make it so every week, instead of next week it being "all housemates with names beginning with M".

Whatever format or style they want is fine, it just needs to be produced well, consistent and applied fairly, otherwise there's simply no point to it at all.



It's your prerogative to enjoy the crappy produced series.

I'm actually not sure why I'm arguing with someone over this who hasn't watched in years, and hasn't enjoyed the show for many more.